User talk:Trevor807

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WageUglyDollandMarlaPlaymobil12 (talkcontribs)

When I deleted IHateShippers's spam pages, Here's what I said to him

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Stephenfisher2001 (talkcontribs)
RTL101 (talkcontribs)

XD

A Russian spam user

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Summary by No Face

He's already been blocked

Stephenfisher2001 (talkcontribs)

1. Моя любимая вики! means "My favorite wiki!"

2. я ненавижу твое имя пользователя means "i hate your username"

3. я испортил статью means "I messed up the article"

4. Вандал хулиган means "Vandal bully"

What.

The.

Heck!?!

Trevor807 (talkcontribs)

I put in “vandal ruffian” on Google Translate.

Bad news, Look who's back

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Stephenfisher2001 (talkcontribs)
Summary by Stephenfisher2001

Nevermind, He's gone now.

Stephenfisher2001 (talkcontribs)

Block him! he's back!

Masson Thief (talkcontribs)

Block you asked and block he got.

FreezingTNT (talkcontribs)

Man, he will never learn, will he?

Masson Thief (talkcontribs)

Block you asked and block he got.

Stephenfisher2001 (talkcontribs)

-_- ...thanks.

Masson Thief (talkcontribs)

Reopened this for a moment just to tell that my message got unintentionally posted twice, I wasn't acting weird.

About this user

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Summary by No Face

Nvm, he apologized.

No Face (talkcontribs)

This user named PhantomVulture keeps adding this bad quality "The video game also sucked" to The Wild and the Alvin and the Chipmunks pages, even though it's not even a valid bad quality. I keep undoing his edits, but he keeps putting them back. Could you please block him so that he doesn't do it again?

LGBT couples in media

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FreezingTNT (talkcontribs)

If I added a LGBT couple into my own movie/media (or change an existing character to LGBT) without intentionally pandering, would it count as pandering?

Masson Thief (talkcontribs)

I don't think one can add a LGBT couple to an old franchise or change an already existing character without pandering to that community as a result. If something is already well-received and beloved by audiences then changing it in a drastic manner will attract criticism from those who will see this type of change as a way to promote politics using that franchise as a mere means of sending such political message to the viewers, thus degrading it.

FreezingTNT (talkcontribs)

Let's say I have a character whose sexuality was previously unclear be lesbian/bisexual in a reboot/remake (they're usually unconnected from the source material canon-wise). Does that count?

Masson Thief (talkcontribs)

It can count but what is sure is that it is something very overused now so it wouln't be very original anyway.

FreezingTNT (talkcontribs)

"what is sure is that it is something very overused now so it wouldn't be very original anyway"

If you're referring to the whole "remaking movies" thing, how about I do the lesbian/bisexual thing in a TV series that kind of retells the story of the original source material?

Masson Thief (talkcontribs)

Both things are overused now. Why are you asking this? Are you remaking a TV series you already released?

FreezingTNT (talkcontribs)

I'm thinking about remaking the Star Wars saga (from I to IX) as a TV series and not in the form of films. (Yeah, I know remaking the original trilogy seems pointless, but Star Wars is a "modern mythology", and I've heard that the Greeks often retold their myths)

Masson Thief (talkcontribs)

That's an impressive feat. And who will be LGBT swapped?

FreezingTNT (talkcontribs)

I'm going to ship Rey with Billie Lourd's character. And it's not going to be for obvious pandering reasons.

Trevor807 (talkcontribs)

I myself don’t see it as political. Marijuana is a political issue, but in my mind, being LGBT isn’t. Basically I’m fine with it as long as they don’t pander to anyone. Arthur and Rocko did it. I haven’t lost one bit of respect for their creators (Marc Brown and Joe Murray, respectively).

Masson Thief (talkcontribs)

Being different than heterosexual isn't a political issue but LGBT is a political group. It is made of people who decided to found a group based on an alliance of their different sexual identities in order to protest against a status quo they claim is discriminatory to them, with the purpose of changing it and being more relevant in society.

Alliances made of different people with the purpose of protesting against something, often society as a whole, is what politics are made of. It is no different from the lower working class fighting against "the bourgeois status quo" for better working conditions or the various student protesters uniting with workers in '68 to complain against practically everything.

WageUglyDollandMarlaPlaymobil12 (talkcontribs)

Unpopular opinion, I don't think being gay is right, but I'm not homophobic considering that I don't bash anything gay-related.

Masson Thief (talkcontribs)

Allright.

Matthew The Guy (talkcontribs)

I still hold the firm belief that LGBT characters should be allowed to exist in media without it being called pandering. Maybe the creators just wanted a character that happens to be LGBT, it doesn't need to be made into anything greedy or ratings-rising. After all, LGBT homies exist in the real world, I don't see a decent reason why they can't exist in fictional work and I don't see it needing to be made political.

Masson Thief (talkcontribs)

It doesn't need to but it happens to be political. No way we can deny there is a recent trend to promote sexual minorities everywhere and author of works of fiction follow it because it makes them look cool and up to date.

And it also depends. Changing an already well extablished character's sexuality is a questionable choice, The Man also said this and I completely agree if him, it is surely made to pander and to represent such minorities in works of fiction, this is pure bureaucracy of progressism in action.

There are several homosexual characters in entertainment that were originally characterized as such, and I don't see people complain about them so you see what is the real problem there.

Matthew The Guy (talkcontribs)

Well I wasn't talking about changing a well established character's sexuality, but it's still a thing in the real world where a well established person may realize that they've been a certain sexuality all this time, which that very thing could represent if done correctly.

Masson Thief (talkcontribs)

Changing sexuality doesn't exist. Sexuality resides in one person's genetics and that doesn't change over time. There are a few VIPs who claim they became homosexual but it is a fake news, celebrities get a lot of money for those revelations from the newspaper or site which publishes such news.

No psychology book ever said it is possible to change sexuality. The only thing that comes near is when a person is afraid of being homosexual. It is a specific kind of OCD known as HOCD (Homosexual Compulsive Disorder) but it's an entirely different thing.

Matthew The Guy (talkcontribs)

I didn't claim that changing sexuality exists, that's actually the point I tried to avoid when explaining that a person might realize that their sexuality might not be what they thought it was before.

Masson Thief (talkcontribs)

That only happens at a young age, the "experiences" one can have before adulthood.

Trevor807 (talkcontribs)

Who’s The Man?

Masson Thief (talkcontribs)

"Smilin" Stan Lee. It was one of his nicknames. Stan "The Man" Lee. That's how he signed his stories. "Smilin" was another of his nicknames.

Masson Thief (talkcontribs)

I think many viewers of today, who watch MCU movies, are grateful to the Man because without him there wouldn't be those movies but still, I think they don't really know him well. Anyone watching those movies should also read his stories.

Trevor807 (talkcontribs)

The name “Stan Lee” even sounds like a particularly badass superhero.

Masson Thief (talkcontribs)

He is, in Lego Marvel Superheroes he became a character with the powers of the Hulk, Spider-Man, Mister Fantastic, Human Torch and Cyclops and maybe even others I can't remember. I am glad he could see that and voice him before he died.

Masson Thief (talkcontribs)

And speaking about his death, I really took it as an omen of the end of an era. You see, when he was making comic books, someone began talking about the need of black characters. And they didn't lazily make Heimdall black or the Valkyrie latino-american like in the MCU, (which are minor characters by the way and that just make the choice seem tokenism even more).

And of course I can't refrain from mentioning Captain Marvel, who is now a woman in the comics (and of course they had to use this latest persona in the movie) even if she already was well-established and beloved character Miss Marvel and the Captain Marvel/Miss Marvel "pairing" was already good. This left the Miss Marvel spot vacant but of course they are not going to create a Mister Marvel, instead there were rumors of another female character, a Latino-American girl last time I checked.

In the sixities, they instead they created new characters, with powers and abilities which were never used before like Luke Cage, Black Panther and Falcon. Not to mention they also made black villains to keep things realistic and avoid pandering (don't know if that was intentional but it worked greatly), the Prowler is a prime example of this (former unhappy window-washer Hobie Brown who used his inventions to turn super-villain, don't know if you know him since to my knowledge he isn't part of the MCU).

These were very original characters, who don't make the stories feel odd because of representation issues.

No wonder the Man was against useless unnecessary changes made to characters, he created three out of the four characters I mentioned, this shows you how highly creative he was, a Man who knew how to make a good job in entertainment industry.


I'm drawing a winter poster for the Reception Family Wikis

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No Face (talkcontribs)

And I just want to ask how you would like to be drawn on the poster. You can list your hair color, hairstyle, skin color, clothes, etc. This is because I want to include most of the major users on the Reception Family Wikis on it.

Stephenfisher2001 (talkcontribs)

If any user getting blocked by the admins, I put his/her User's page, like this.

Stephenfisher2001 (talkcontribs)

So what the Deleted Trevor807 page said?

Trevor807 (talkcontribs)

It basically said I sucked for blocking two accounts and hating SJWs.

Stephenfisher2001 (talkcontribs)

You're not sucked, you're awesome.

So he's an SJW, is he?