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ItMeansNothing (talkcontribs)

Disney aren't capitalists and don't exploit animals in their films. In fact, I'm pretty sure Disney treats their animals well, and if they were abusing them, they would've been sued and gone bankrupt. Do you understand what "no animals are harmed" means? Do you also know what capitalists and exploiting is in your own terms?

MeggieConte (talkcontribs)

Movie industries across the world tend to get away with everything, like the word "blood" is sometimes dropped in kid movies

Trevor807 (talkcontribs)

That’s because not all kids movies are “sugar and spice and everything nice, snips and snails and puppy dog tails”. And I know United Artists was brought down by Heaven’s Gate. And that 20th Century Fox was brought down by Fant4stic. They certainly didn’t get away with those. I don’t mean to strawman you, but maybe you’re getting extreme.

Matthew The Guy (talkcontribs)

Trev and Wage are absolutely correct. If Disney were exploiting animals, it probably would have gone out to the public already since that's been the same with almost anything bad Disney had done, such as refuse to allow Spiderman to be put on a Spiderman fan's tombstone.

Plus, I fail to see why dropping the word "blood" in kids movies needs to be established like this. Everyone has blood, and it's completely natural. We don't have to act like it doesn't exist, and as for the context it's used such as expressions, well that doesn't really matter either, at least that's how I see it.

MeggieConte (talkcontribs)

Okay. It's time to end this argument war once and for all.

Animals, when they're not acting, are kept in metal shelters, which look like prison cells. I tend to avoid these and go for cleaner and more open places for dog boarding. Animal exploitation, you see, is treating them cruelly for the purpose of entertainment. In 1994, an elephant fled a circus tent in Hawaii and was shot numerous times until she died. Can't you see how horrifying it is? Also why else do you think Disney+ exists? If that's not capitalism, I give up. (also I hear that all the discriminatory stuff has been edited out, why? They've got away with it for like 80 years now!)

for Wage: we haven't seen a Cheburashka live-action film yet because some people know that money isn't everything. (want to know what Cheburashka is? Your wish is my command: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8coRRofuRw) for Trevor: I can understand that, movies, shows, pretty much everything aimed for kids has something adult-ish in it. I was being too broad; I should get more into detail. for Matthew: I see where you're coming from, but that's what parents and school is for.

Phew, that's enough rambling. Needless to say (very needless), I know animal maltreatment when I see it. Yours truly, MeggieConte

PS: I let Duck Hunt fly (literally and figuratively) because it's an 8-bit game and doesn't use real ducks to massacre.

ItMeansNothing (talkcontribs)

You're basically telling me a bunch of stupid gibberish.

LA2002 (talkcontribs)

Shut your fucking pie-holes already, Meggie.

Trevor807 (talkcontribs)

Keep telling yourself all that, Meg. While I don’t want to make you look like straw, it’s quite obvious you have a twisted, anti-capitalism viewpoint; what is your viewpoint anyway? Is there any evidence of this “animal cruelty” happening to animal actors? Also, like Matt says, if Disney were committing animal abuse, by now it would’ve come out long ago, a major scandal would’ve broken out, and Disney would’ve collapsed. United Artists couldn’t get away with Heaven’s Gate, as I said, so your point of “Disney getting away with animal cruelty” is pretty much moot. And the elephant went out of the tent because she wasn’t well-trained enough; before fleeing she killed her trainer (who was on cocaine and abused her) and injured 13 other people, and you seem to claim they deserved it. Lastly, if you claim Disney+ only exists for “capitalism”, then by your logic Netflix and Hulu would’ve only existed for the same reason.

LA2002 (talkcontribs)

I vehemently agree with Trevor, Matt and Wage, Meg. You're only acting bigoted towards Disney, and that makes a very toxic hater. You simply need to calm down, and mind you, I'm a big fan of Disney, but I'm not one of those toxic fans and seriously, Meg, you need to shut the fuck up.

Stephenfisher2001 (talkcontribs)

Agree LA2002 and Trevor807. Meg, you're acting like Evil Tim, who also bigoted toward Disney, and that makes a very toxic hater too.

You REALLY need to shut the crap up about Disney!

Trevor807 (talkcontribs)

Calm down, Stephen. Be civil about this. Now, Meg, you need to understand that, no matter what, your viewpoints of Disney are twisted, at best.

Stephenfisher2001 (talkcontribs)

Sorry!

MeggieConte (talkcontribs)

This. Has. To. End. In a simple way, "capitalism" is where the companies make the decisions, own the property, and the main goal is to make profit. In other words, Disney's completely enslaved Marvel Studios, Lucasfilm and Fox Pictures. Disney is indestructible, it can't collapse until the sun becomes a red giant. What else is, animals are chained up for hours in small and dark rooms where they have no freedom, and when they're forced to act, they get whipped if they do something "wrong". If Disney wasn't so desperate for money nowadays, I would've still had a positive view over it. I won't give them a penny until they go bankrupt (which I already established is never). And besides, I completely stopped watching Disney. I watch anime now.

Trevor807 (talkcontribs)

Um, not only did you double down on your already twisted view of treatment of animals (ever heard of “No animals were harmed during the making of this movie”?), but Disney didn’t enslave those studios; it bought them. In other words, do you have any proof to back both your claims up? Pictures? Because I never once heard of animal cruelty happening on set. Oh wait; “They don’t want you to know! Thanks to capitalism, they can get away with it by paying the government!”. There, said it for you. At least Evil Tim wouldn’t make conspiracy theories that Disney would purposefully commit heinous crimes.

ItMeansNothing (talkcontribs)

Please shut the fuck up, Meggie. I knew you weren't gonna change, and do you have any proof that Disney abuses animals>

ItMeansNothing (talkcontribs)

And not every movie should be Blue's Clues, are you a soccermom, Meggie?

EijiZeBoi (talkcontribs)

OMG!!! WAGE!!! YOU'RE HERE!!! HOW!? I THOUGHT YOU CAN ONLY GO ON MIRAHEZE ON YOUR CHROMEBOOK!!!

ItMeansNothing (talkcontribs)

To make a long story short, our school lets us bring our chromebooks home and I'm using it secretly at bed. I'm not going to be doing this every time, though.

EijiZeBoi (talkcontribs)

Oh, NOW they let you bring them home?

ItMeansNothing (talkcontribs)

Oh they've always do that in high school, and I always do, just never mess with them.

EijiZeBoi (talkcontribs)

K.

ItMeansNothing (talkcontribs)

I also made some comments on your videos lel.

LA2002 (talkcontribs)

Shut the fuck up, Meg. You only want everyone to hate Disney. You seriously need to get globally blocked for your bigotry and disrespecting opinions on Disney. And I'll be crossing the line for a moment here (so please, Elijah, Trevor and Wage, don't take seriously what I'm about to say), but go fuck yourself, Meg.

EijiZeBoi (talkcontribs)

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Matthew The Guy (talkcontribs)

This animal chain story sounds like a completely fictional story pulled out of your ass and I would like to see the proof that encouraged you to make such BS claims. And those companies aren't "enslaved", they're bought. Clearly by the way you used the word "enslaved", you're not completely up to date with what it means, because the way you described it makes it sound like any normal job.

LA2002 (talkcontribs)

Agreed, Matthew. And for what Meggie said, you need to permanently block her once and for all.

What Edmond said

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MeggieConte (talkcontribs)

What Edmond actually said: I'm all furry! What most people thought he said: I'm a furry! What I thought he said: I'm a bunny!

Still love this movie no matter what.

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