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Star Wars: The Last Jedi
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"This is not going to go the way you think." — Luke Skywalker
Genre: Science fiction
Space opera
Fantasy
Adventure
Directed By: Rian Johnson
Produced By: Kathleen Kennedy
Ram Bergman
Written By: Rian Johnson
Based On: Star Wars by George Lucas
Starring: Mark Hamill
Carrie Fisher
Adam Driver
Daisy Ridley
John Boyega
Oscar Isaac
Andy Serkis
Cinematography: Steve Yedlin
Distributed By: Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures
Release Date: December 9, 2017 (Shrine Auditorium)
December 15, 2017 (United States)
Runtime: 152 minutes
Country: United States
Language: English
Budget: $200–317 million
Box Office: $1.321 billion
Franchise: Star Wars
Prequel: Star Wars: The Force Awakens (chronologically)
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (by release)
Sequel: Solo: A Star Wars Story (by release)
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (chronologically)


"I said to Rian, 'Jedi's don't give up.' I mean, even if [Luke] had a problem, he would maybe take a year to try and regroup, but if he made a mistake, he would try and right that wrong, so right there, we had a fundamental difference."

Mark Hamill

Star Wars: The Last Jedi (also known as Star Wars: Episode VIII – The Last Jedi) is a 2017 American epic space opera film and the eighth film in the Star Wars Skywalker saga, the second installment in the series' sequel trilogy, and the sequel to Star Wars: The Force Awakens. It was written and directed by Rian Johnson, had its world premiere at the Shrine Auditorium in Los Angeles on December 9, 2017, and was released in the United States on December 15, 2017.

The sequel, Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker, was released on December 20, 2019.

Plot

Luke Skywalker's peaceful and solitary existence gets upended when he encounters Rey, a young woman who shows strong signs of the Force. Her desire to learn the ways of the Jedi forces Luke to make a decision that changes their lives forever. Meanwhile, Kylo Ren and General Hux lead the First Order in an all-out assault against Leia and the Resistance for supremacy of the galaxy.

Bad Qualities

  1. The movie suffers from simplistic and poor set-ups for concepts and scenes; for example, the explanation of why the First Order are suddenly so powerful is a single sentence in the opening crawl, which flatly declares that they now reign.
    • Another example is in a scene which explains how the Resistance ships are faster and can keep at a range where the First Order ships' cannons are ineffective against their shields and that they wouldn't last long burning fuel like this, which is not only false, since the Resistance ships never pull away from the First Order ships despite supposedly being faster, but also doesn't fit with anything that has ever been depicted in Star Wars before and thus feels contrived.
  2. The viewer is expected to know everything from ancillary material, which has always been a very questionable practice for movies.
  3. The film uses a rather washed-out "gritty" color palette template typically seen in war films, instead of using bright colors like the previous films did; as a result, the movie looks rather faded and dull.
  4. This sloppy approach to causality and continuity results in frequent cases of what can only be described as "teleportation," with characters simply appearing where the plot has decided they ought to be; for example:
    • Rey and Chewbacca arrive at the Supremacy in the Millennium Falcon, even though they logically should not know where the Supremacy is at, let alone that it exists; similarly, Finn, Rose and DJ arrive at the Supremacy, even though they also should not know where it is at by this point.
    • Even objects are affected by this, with a knife-like weapon belonging to one of the Praetorian guards seeming to disappear in the next shot so Rey wouldn't be impaled, allowing her to defeat him so easily.
    • Phasma is suddenly at the opposite end of the Supremacy's hangar bay after Holdo's kamikaze, despite initially being near Finn and Rose.
    • BB-8 appears inside an AT-ST without any explanation for how it got in there.
    • Rey gets to Snoke's escape craft, leaves the Supremacy and gets to inside the Falcon off-screen in a manner that is never made clear.
    • Rose, BB-8 and Finn all leave the Supremacy in a First Order shuttle, which then arrives at the door of the abandoned Rebel base right as it is closing, even though none of these characters should know where the base actually is.
    • Rose's speeder is suddenly right next to Finn's, even though an overhead shot clearly showed how Finn's was the only speeder going in that direction.
  5. The film shares the same problem as its predecessor of lazily recycling several plot points and tropes from a specific installment of the original trilogy, but this time it rehashes not only The Empire Strikes Back but also parts of Return of the Jedi:
    • Good guys are chased out of their main base by the bad guys; due to an unfortunate circumstance, the good guys are stuck being chased by the bad guys because they cannot jump away.
    • The Force-sensitive hero finds a Jedi master in exile on a remote planet, ostensibly to train; however, the Jedi master is not what the hero expects.
    • The hero learns about the Force and goes into a dark side cave where they face a vision of oneself; later, they have a vision of the future, and rushes off to confront the villain against the wishes of the Jedi master.
    • The friends of the hero are betrayed by their ally after being captured by the bad guys.
    • The hero believes that the villain has good in their heart and can be turned, so said hero turns oneself in and tries to convince the villain to turn back, but the villain appears unmoved.
    • The villain presents the hero to his master, who places the hero's lightsaber on the armrest of his throne and later goads the hero about how his forces have the other good guys trapped and are killing them.
    • The villain kills his master in order to to save the hero.
    • The hero fails in their mission, is told some bad news about their lineage, is given an offer to join the villain, rejects it and is left on the run.
    • There is a battle on a planet with a white surface where the good guys, in trenches and weak speeders, face off against the bad guys before the thing that is protecting them is breached.
    • The good guys are battered, left to lick their wounds and hopefully regroup to fight another day.
  6. Several plot points that were set up in the previous film are ignored and have little-to-no payoff:
    • Supreme Leader Snoke is killed off all of a sudden without having any of his backstory or motives explained.
    • Rey's parents and Kylo Ren's training are now suddenly unimportant.
    • The Knights of Ren are absent and only indirectly mentioned by Luke in one scene.
    • Finn now knows how to pilot spaceships, despite it being a major plot point that he did not know how to do so in the previous film and no time having elapsed for him to learn.
    • It is never explained how the lightsaber that once belonged to Anakin Skywalker was recovered after being dropped into the atmosphere of a gas giant.
    • Captain Phasma also returns without any explanation for as to how she survived being thrown in or escaped from a trash compactor on a planet that was promptly blown up, and the fact that she disabled the shields on Starkiller Base is never brought up.
    • The loss of Starkiller Base, if anything, seems to have made the First Order stronger, even though they should be weaker as Starkiller Base literally costed them resources.
    • Snoke, despite having repeatedly seen Kylo Ren in a mask prior to the events of the film, suddenly dislikes it.
    • Finn's spinal injury is simply cured the first time we see him.
    • Rey is suddenly interested in the identities of her parents and wants to know who they were, even though that was not really the case in the previous film; in The Force Awakens, she simply wanted parental figures and was waiting for her actual family to return, before accepting that they would never return to get her.
  7. Constant clunky attempts at humor that are badly placed and usually disrupt tense action scenes, even slowing down the pacing of the film; for example, the opening sequence is an extended set-up to a bad "yo mama" joke, delivered to a character who is supposed to be powerful and threatening.
  8. The film shares the same problem as The Force Awakens of lacking a sense of scale: the same Resistance funded by a galactic Republic has only a single base with perhaps only a few large ships for some reason. The set-up of the midsection of the film would also only work if every ship in the First Order is chasing every ship in the Resistance since otherwise one or both sides could summon more ships to assist them. The only real attempt to compensate is to make individual vehicles larger, so the First Order has Star Destroyers and walkers similar to AT-ATs of an extremely large size.
  9. The film has several internal contradictions, including but not limited to:
    • Supreme Leader Snoke seems to have been genuinely unaware that his own flagship has a hyperspace-tracking device on board to the point where he literally tortures General Hux for allowing the Resistance to escape.
    • Rey has lived on a desert planet since as a child and thus has never seen rain before, but later knows how to swim despite having left Jakku only a few days earlier and no time having elapsed for her to learn.
    • Finn goes from assuming that hyperspace-tracking is impossible to later revealing that he mopped the breaker room for the tracker on the Supremacy (despite him having been stationed on Starkiller Base) in-between scenes.
    • Rose preventing Finn from sacrificing himself to destroy the cannon contradicts her own motivations: her sister laid down her life to protect the Resistance, while Rose risks her life to destroy it.
      • A common attempt to defend this mentions that Finn was never truly going to be able to destroy the cannon, even though he is the viewer's insight to the First Order and has previously provided information for Starkiller Base and the hyperspace tracker on the Supremacy, so he should know that this would destroy the cannon; not to mention that, although parts of the speeder are melting, the main body of the speeder seems to be fine, especially in the moment right before Rose prevents Finn's sacrifice.
    • In one scene Admiral Holdo explains to Leia how she herself likes Poe, even though this is the same man who jeopardized her escape plan, endangered everyone on the Raddus and held her at gunpoint.
  10. Poor grasp of the Star Wars lore, technology and sci-fi space physics in general:
    • Doors open into space without sucking people out, damaged or destroyed vessels sink as if they were naval ships, free-falling bombs are used by bomber spacecraft, the Supremacy is armed with howitzers firing lasers that visibly arc, and the chase which forms the main part of the film is pre-texted on ships and weapons behaving as if they were subject to air resistance.
    • The golden dice, which were just a background prop in A New Hope, are now suddenly important.
    • Admiral Holdo sacrifices herself to jump into lightspeed to split an entire wing off of the Supremacy and destroy several Star Destroyers by ramming into them; this creates plot holes in the franchise since a kamikaze attack of this type renders super-weapons such as the Death Star as well as large spacecraft extremely vulnerable and easy to destroy.
      • The fact that director and writer Rian Johnson himself has claimed that no one in the Lucasfilm Story Group thought it contradicted anything in other Star Wars media does not exactly help.
    • Force ghosts can now call down lightning to blow things up in the real world and hit others in the face with physical objects, even though the Force ghost of Obi-Wan Kenobi mentioned that he cannot interfere in The Empire Strikes Back.
    • Captain Phasma's armor is apparently immune from damage by blaster bolts; if this were the case, she never would have had any reason to be afraid when Finn put a blaster to her head in The Force Awakens.
    • Luke considering killing Ben and igniting his lightsaber upon probing his mind only to end up seeing his dark intentions is framed by dialogue as "instinctual," which basically misunderstands his character in the original trilogy, in which he isn't instinctively murderous, not in situations where the threat isn't active, and especially not against family members; there is no instinct, every time he reacts with violence he has to be heavily coaxed into it in highly-stressful situations.
  11. Battle scenes are very simplistic and seem "turn-based," with seemingly only one side doing something at a time; this leads to awkward moments, such as the AT-M6s and AT-ATs just sitting there while Finn flees across about miles of open ground while carrying an unconscious Rose.
  12. Also similar to in The Force Awakens, the acting in this film is very mediocre; particularly, Daisy Ridley just widely opens her eyes and stands around with her mouth open to express every type of emotion.
  13. Luke Skywalker's reaction upon learning about the death of Han Solo was filmed, but was ultimately cut from the film and the scene just ends after Luke asks about him upon realizing the Millennium Falcon is on his island but Han is nowhere to be seen.
  14. Uninspired and clearly flawed ship designs:
    • The Mandator IV-class Siege Dreadnought appearing in the opening battle is essentially "designed for the plot," and suffers from numerous flaws in its designs which seem to exist solely for the Resistance to exploit; its bridge is protruding from the flat hull and is extremely wide, making itself a wide target, and the ship is also very lacking in point defense weapons, having only twenty-six turrets (even the old Republican Venator-class Star Destroyers from the prequels have better defense) which are all positioned on its dorsal surface, leaving the ship's main weapons, the ventral-mounted twin orbital bombardment auto-cannons, defenseless (this is a flaw that the Resistance somehow fails to exploit, Poe could simply fly to the ventral surface of the ship and destroy the auto-cannons himself instead of calling in the bombers; remember, he even seems to be aware of its destructive capabilities). The dreadnought also has a docking point for a Resurgent-class Star Destroyer on its dorsal surface which is a major weakness in its hull, allowing the MG-100 StarFortress SF-17 bombers to easily destroy it.
    • The MG-100 StarFortress SF-17 is designed to be a World War II-styled heavy bomber in an era of space battles, and it is a fairly big target due to their large bomb bays which protrude out like a magazine from a gun, as well as being absurdly slow and having weak hull armor; they also heavily rely on outdated tactics such as flying in tight formations (so tight a single damaged TIE fighter manages to take down three bombers by simply crashing into them), and attack by positioning themselves "directly above" enemy ships and "drop" their payload directly onto the target. While using magnetic force to push the bombs out of bomb bays to create a "free-falling effect" is possible in space, not using weapons with better range such as proton torpedoes or smart bombs makes no sense. Even the only redeeming quality of the StarFortress, which is its high bomb capacity, is insignificant since it should not be a bomber in the first place.
  15. Most of the characters have a dramatic problem and gets changed in the personality, which is now boring stereotype:
    • Rey is still a rather dull and overpowered protagonist who pulls abilities out of nowhere as the plot requires, suddenly knows the Force after roughly a single lesson from Luke, and is shilled for by the narrative: notably, Luke claims her power frightens him, despite having been in the presence of other Sith, and even Yoda talks about how awesome she is. Rey also seems to barely acknowledge Finn for most of the movie as if he didn't exist to the point where she only calls out Kylo for killing Han and never brings up the fact that he endangered Finn's life, and she even defeats Luke in combat (not physically, though) and lectures him for being a coward.
    • Luke Skywalker is given a very questionable characterization throughout the movie, as he is now a terrified and cowardly man committed to dying alone wallowing in regret after a failed attempt at a cold-blooded murder, instead of being an optimistic hero who refuses to give up.
      • In particular, the fact that he also gave into his impulsives and considered the cold-blooded murder of a sleeping Ben Solo on the basis of a vague premonition rather undermines his arc in Return of the Jedi, in which he learns to control his emotions and impulses that made him prone to temptation by the dark side.
    • Supreme Leader Snoke isn't a threatening villain, as he turns out to be just a (mostly) regular-sized and weak-looking humanoid alien with silly-looking golden robes.
    • Leia can now use the Force to "fly through space" and her scene felt like a deus ex machina; the fact that Leia is a powerful Force-user undermines the entire quest to find Luke in The Force Awakens, since she could've just helped the Resistance defeat the First Order.
      • The scene also felt awkward in light of the tragic real-life death of Carrie Fisher.
    • Poe Dameron's arc consists of him getting demoted for making what in retrospect was the only correct decision (even if the Resistance wasn't aware of hyperspace-tracking, he knew that they would've been obliterated in their next encounter with the dreadnought had it not been destroyed), being constantly talked down to, and learning a lesson about the value of mindlessly obeying orders and ignoring his own instincts. Given that the bombers are slow and weak, it is not clear how they would've been able to join up with the Resistance fleet to flee before the dreadnought had a chance to fire a second shot, even if Poe had listened to Leia's orders.
    • Vice Admiral Amilyn Holdo[1] is a very flat character and her feud with Poe is pointless given that she could just tell everyone about the existence of a plan, given the clear crisis of morale on her ship. Also, her uniform, consisting of pink hair and a ballgown, is very odd, given that she is supposed to be a military officer. She also sits around doing nothing on her cruiser's bridge while the First Order destroys most of the remainder of the Resistance.
    • BB-9E is supposed to be a threatening villain, despite its obviously harmless appearance since it is basically just a black-plated BB-8.
    • Chewbacca is very underused except for interactions with the porgs and taking Rey to places via the Falcon, and isn't shown to be grieving for the death of Han Solo.
    • Everyone in the First Order is incompetent to the point where Captain Canady, the commander of the dreadnought, orders the destruction of the nearly-empty Resistance base rather than the obviously escaping Raddus.
    • Captain Phasma is wasted again, as she fails to execute Finn and Rose, loses a fight with Finn and dies again and she is never seen or mentioned anywhere.
    • Yoda is given a rather goofy characterization, similar to when he first met Luke on Dagobah in The Empire Strikes Back, in which he acted like this to test Luke's patience before turning to his usual stoic and wise characterization; only there is no reason for him to act like this in this movie.
    • Maz Kanata is also inconsistent, as in the previous film she is a quirky but sincere criminal leader who cared about the fate of the galaxy and offered sage advice to young adventurers, but here she is now too busy with union disputes and implied sexual innuendo to fight "the only fight that matters".
  16. Rose Tico, the new main character added to the cast, barely do anything in the movie and is nothing but annoying new character.
  17. The film continues a tendency started by The Force Awakens to quickly replace classic characters with new ones without any proper setup. For example, Luke is given a new characterization so that Rey can easily be better than him. Admiral Ackbar is pointlessly killed off after having spent less than a minute on-screen and Leia is pointlessly rendered unconscious for most of the second act, and both are replaced with a new admiral character who is also killed off in this movie.
  18. At times, it does not even feel like an actual Star Wars film:
    • It shares another problem with the previous film of its tone and much of the attempts at dialogue and humor being reminiscent of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, which feels out-of-place in a Star Wars film; the original six films felt timeless, as they felt as if a myth were playing out on-screen, and part of the reason why is because much of the dialogue (as clunky as some of it is) feels as if they were from another galaxy rather than from our Earth. Here, in The Last Jedi, the characters are spewing out dated and unfunny jokes much of the time and it really sucks the viewer out of the mood; it works in the Marvel Cinematic Universe since this was the tone that was established from the start, but none of the previous six films have done this, so this doesn't work in The Last Jedi.
    • It also lacks the Wilhelm scream as well as a character stating, "I have a [very] bad feeling about this," both of which have always been used in prior Star Wars films; director and writer Rian Johnson did make up for the latter by stating in one interview that BB-8 gives a series of beeps in the opening battle that translate to, "I have a bad feeling about this," but the translation itself is not really in the actual film.
  19. Scenes and plot points are severely affected by poor writing and are sometimes redundant:
    • The script constantly re-uses the idea of a character being rendered unconscious before switching to another scene; Poe, Finn, Kylo Ren, Leia and Rose are all rendered unconscious before the scene can move to another location.
    • Kylo Ren goes from wanting to create something different from pretty much anything made before to just deciding to be in charge of the First Order, something that also existed in the past, without a clear reason.
    • At one point Finn and Rose get arrested for a parking violation, which is too mundane for a Star Wars movie.
    • The script sometimes forgets that the Resistance are not referred to as the Rebels, notably when Finn refers to himself as "Rebel scum" while fighting Phasma.
    • The interactions between Rey and Kylo feel very forced (considering that they are in separate locations across the galaxy and that there would've been no other logical workaround to get them to interact) and weren't developed enough for her to decide to go risk her life to save him despite the fact that he had previously injured Finn and killed Han Solo.
    • Similarly, Rose kissing Finn felt rather rushed, especially considering how she was never shown or told earlier in the film to have romantic feelings for Finn.
    • On the topic of Rose, at one point in the sequence at Canto Bight she points out to Finn ,
    • Both of Luke's lessons on why the Jedi Order should end that he gives to Rey don't do much of any analysis beyond empty assertions:
      • The first lesson is about how "the Force doesn't belong to the Jedi," which was never a claim that the Jedi had, especially not with how Luke was taught about the Force. In fact, the Force has always been described as an all-encompassing energy field in the previous films. The Jedi's mandate is to work with the Force, not control it or claim ownership of it.
      • The other lesson, about how "at the height of their power the Jedi allowed Darth Sidious to rise, create the Empire and wipe them out," is equally empty, as it doesn't raise any further questions or provide greater reasoning for the Jedi's failure beyond "they lost," which would be a dumb thing to use as evidence that the Jedi are bad, as that loss only occurred at the end of a thousand generations of being successful peacekeepers.
        • Also the Jedi weren't at the height of their power during Sidious' rise, they were quite honest with themselves during Attack of the Clones, before the start of the Clone Wars, that their powers had been diminished. They also didn't allow Darth Sidious to rise, create the Empire and wipe them out, they weren't sitting idly while he took over; they actively fought his forces and sought to keep the Republic together; and finally, the Empire was only created after most of the Jedi were exterminated.
    • Overuse of lazy plot conveniences, such as DJ arriving out of nowhere with a ship to find Finn and Rose on the edge of a cliff.
    • Laughable dialogue, particularly Rose's line about how they'll win "not by fighting what we hate... but saving what we love"; that specific line also makes no sense in context, given that Finn was literally trying to "save what he loves" in the first place.
    • Some lines aren't necessary and point out stuff that is obvious, like in the opening scene where Lieutenant Connix says "oh no" upon discovering a First Order fleet arrive above the atmosphere of D'Qar.
    • Many scenes are copied from other movies, notably the scene where Luke is revealed to be a projection, which recycles the ending of Escape from L.A. Aside from copying plot points from The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi, the plot itself is also blatantly rehashed from Crimson Tide.
    • The Canto Bight subplot has a lot of filler, consisting of Finn taking the time to run around the casino wide-eyed and wanting to have some fun gambling and Rose spending a few scenes worried about capitalism and animal cruelty despite the fact they are on an urgent mission to save their friends.
    • The middle of the movie is a digression caused by Admiral Holdo refusing to tell one of her subordinates enough information to perform his job of reassuring his subordinates, which results Poe, Finn and Rose creating a rather convoluted plan to find a code-breaker to get onto the Supremacy in order to get into a breaker room to switch off a breaker to disable a tracker so that the Resistance fleet can jump to lightspeed, which is useless since the Resistance never needed the tracker to be off anyway.
    • Yoda shows up to teach Luke a valuable lesson, telling him that "The greatest teacher, failure is," which is a lesson Luke has already learned over the course of the original trilogy; only there is no reason for Yoda to point this out to Luke.
    • Luke's death at the end was pretty underwhelming and empty, as he basically uses up all of his life-force by projecting an image of himself across the galaxy just to distract Kylo Ren and the First Order.
    • The ending sequence is very contradictory with the protagonists cheering, which feels very forced despite the death of Luke Skywalker and the Resistance being almost entirely decimated.

Good Qualities

  1. The visual design, cinematography, lighting and integration of digital and practical effects are all top-notch; all the action scenes are well-shot and excellent from a visual standpoint, and nearly all scenes are beautifully realized.
    • The scene of Holdo's kamikaze is stunningly-executed.
    • The Yoda puppet is an amazing replica of the original puppet used in The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi; the original molds and the original painter for Yoda's eyes were even used.
    • On that topic the scene where the Force ghost of Yoda hits Luke on the face with his cane is a funny moment and a nice call-back to The Empire Strikes Back, despite its issues.
  2. The sound design is excellent, and most tracks from John Williams' score deliver the precise mood and tone they are supposed to, despite feeling a little played-out at times.
  3. Mark Hamill, Carrie Fisher and Andy Serkis are clearly doing a good job with the material they were given, and of the younger cast Adam Driver in particular also puts in a great performance.
  4. The scene where Luke speaks to R2-D2 aboard the Falcon is not only pitch-perfect and genuinely touching, but also gives the viewer a moment where he has proper characterization.
  5. The scene of Finn accepting that he is now fighting for something bigger than himself as he heads towards the battering ram cannon is extremely well-handled.
  6. The Porgs are, admittedly, very cute to look at.
    • In particular, BB-8 is still cute.
  7. There are some references to the three films in the prequel trilogy, like when Luke mentions how the Jedi fell and how Darth Sidious formed the Empire.
  8. Despite having mediocre choreography, the scene where Rey and Kylo Ren team up to fight the Praetorian guards is a pretty awesome scene.
  9. Even Luke Skywalker's death, despite suffering from a botched execution, has some redeeming qualities, too, specifically the score from John Williams as well as the fact that the death occurs in front of the twin suns, mirroring one of his most iconic moments from A New Hope.

Reception

Critical and audience response

Star Wars: The Last Jedi received positive reviews, with praise for its ensemble cast, musical score, visual effects, action sequences, and emotional weight. The review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes reported that 90% of critics have given the film a positive review based on 473 reviews, with an average rating of 8.09/10. The website's critics consensus reads, "Star Wars: The Last Jedi honors the saga's rich legacy while adding some surprising twists — and delivering all the emotion-rich action fans could hope for." On Metacritic, the film has a weighted average score of 84 out of 100 based on 56 critics, indicating "universal acclaim."

Despite the positive reviews from critics, it divided the more devoted fans of the Star Wars franchise, receiving a 43% audience rating. Some fans have considered The Last Jedi to be the worst film in the series' Skywalker saga to the point where the prequels, namely The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones, once widely considered the worst films in the saga, are now looked on more favorably in hindsight by some fans.

The media called the fans out for this, referring to them as a "vocal minority"[2], claiming that they were opposed to the film's "diversity" or failed to understand "its message" or accusing them that they disliked it because it failed to match their "fan theories"[3] (even though there were fan theories it did match[4]), proclaiming that this was Star Wars for "a new generation," or even attacking the original trilogy by saying it "wasn't as good as they remembered."

Several scenes prompted a humorous reaction from the Internet Star Wars community, notably the shot where Luke Skywalker makes a disgusted face after drinking a green liquid milked from a seal-like creature (also known as a Thala-siren in the official Star Wars canon[5]) being used to describe the reaction to the movie itself; the scene where Leia flies through space was also referred to as "Leia Poppins" or "Super Leia" due to how forced some fans considered it to be. A clip of an interview where Mark Hamill, the actor of Luke Skywalker, is describing BB-9E became another meme associated with the film[6].

One of the more major criticisms from viewers described how characters lacked their proper characterization in the movie, with Hamill backing them up by stating how Luke Skywalker was written in a way he wasn't supposed to be. In one interview he referred to the film's portrayal of Luke as "Jake Skywalker,"[7] which would become a term used by Star Wars fans to refer to the aforementioned portrayal of Luke Skywalker. John Boyega, the actor of Finn, also criticized Finn's characterization.

Director Rian Johnson stated in an interview[8] that he never felt comfortable directing a Star Wars movie in the first place, admitting that he never cared about the series' canon or history, thus explaining the inconsistencies in the movie.

Box office

The film made $1.3 billion at the box office worldwide over the course of its theatrical run, with a budget of $200–317 million, though it had a colossal 68.5% second-week drop at the US box office. The film was also a box-office bomb in China, as movie exhibitors dropped the film's showtimes by 92% before it was pulled entirely after two weeks.

Trivia

  • The Porgs were created to digitally replace the puffins that inhabited the island of Skellig Michael in Ireland (the island where the scenes on Ahch-To were filmed), as the island is so heavily populated with them to the point where the production staff decided to digitally replace the puffins rather than try to remove them.
  • The concept of Force-users communicating with each other from across the galaxy was originally going to be in Return of the Jedi, but was cut from the finished film.

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Masson Thief

14 months ago
Score 6
So it's finally here, after four long days of cutting, pasting and merging pieces of text.
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EijiZeBoi

14 months ago
Score 0
Can we shorten the plot? It's all copied from Wikipedia.
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Masson Thief

14 months ago
Score 0
I noticed it has been done.
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EnnardTrap1987

14 months ago
Score 3
About time its on here. I thought it wasn’t allowed due to the hate for this movie going too far.
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Trevor807

14 months ago
Score 2
That was Sausage Party. Put it on either wiki and one side will have a flame war over it.
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Matthew The Guy

14 months ago
Score 0
Would a good solution be to take away the comments?
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Masson Thief

14 months ago
Score 1

Actually the reason I gave about Sausage Party was different. If you remember, I said it has a very odd reception, with fans and critics liking it or criticizing it for the same things.

I know you like it Matthew, why don't you make a blog version for it on Greatest Movies Wiki? All you need to do is avoid using pointers and the infobox in the blog post.
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Masson Thief

14 months ago
Score 1

About TLJ, the movie being too much hated has never been the reason why this movie didn't have a page here. That actually was something I never agreed with when it comes to have movies here. About the reception, I noticed how it is essentially divided into three parts: viewers who like it, viewers who like it but know it has plenty of flaws and inconsistencies within itself and to the Star Wars movies in general, and viewers who heavily critise it.

You see the negative reception is prevalent here, even the Google score is unusually pretty low since almost anything has at least 80% on that rating scale, if not more.
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EijiZeBoi

14 months ago
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Sausage Party isn't that good of a movie. It's unfunny trash that constantly beats the viewer over the head with high amounts of profanity and sexual content, which the writers apparently consider "humor".
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AttackerAngel85

2 months ago
Score 0
Hate for this movie can never go too far.
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Xian Pu

14 months ago
Score 1
Maybe worth adding to the article that John Boyega also wasn't happy with the movie?
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Masson Thief

14 months ago
Score 0
Give a link so that we can mention some meaningful criticism he gave.
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Masson Thief

14 months ago
Score 2
That's the catch.
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Sofaking we todd it

14 months ago
Score 0
All of you are Russian trolls!/s
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Masson Thief

14 months ago
Score 0
Maybe he was joking?
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Sofaking we todd it

14 months ago
Score 2
I was. That's why I put "/s" at the end.
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ItMeansNothing

14 months ago
Score 0
Oh.
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Masson Thief

14 months ago
Score 3
Yes, that thing about media claiming that the detractors of this movie were part of a Russian hacker conspiracy, something like that.
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Sofaking we todd it

14 months ago
Score 2
All of the news networks that are run by liberals created this ridiculous claim. Coincidence? I think not.
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Trevor807

14 months ago
Score 0
That's how low one side will sink to in a desperate attempt to bring down the other.
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Masson Thief

14 months ago
Score 4
Modern liberals are extremely creative in finding ways to dismiss criticism by trying to ruin the reputation of the detractors.
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Trevor807

14 months ago
Score 0
The one thing I will complement them on, indeed.
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AttackerAngel85

2 months ago
Score 0
Yeah, cuz Russia cares so much about it.
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Mr. Tenno

14 months ago
Score 1
Not the worst movie out there. I liked Star Wars as a kid. But my love for it died. It returned for me with The Force Awakens, which I thought it was amazing. Rouge One was really good, but The Last Jedi is decent to me, but it is not as good as it should be. Solo was a MAJOR disappointment to me. And Rise of Skywalker, I have very low expectations for it. And my mum is making watch Rise of Skywalker.
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Freddie123

14 months ago
Score 5

Critics: That is outrageous! This movie's even better than the OT.

Me: Not even close, hobo. No one trusts ya anymore.
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LA2002

14 months ago
Score 0
This film is quite decent to me, but I clearly know that The Force Awakens is actually much better, and when I knew its flaws, I was having speculations that this would end up here, which ended up being confirmed by this page. Out of what I know, no matter what the critics say about The Rise of Skywalker, I'll be watching that film and not only Mark Hamill and John Boyega disliked the film, I also noticed that J. J. Abrams (the director of The Force Awakens himself) also expressed distaste for this film because of how deeply flawed it is. But here are my words to the makers of this page: congratulations for all the effort, because I knew that this page was really hard to make, with the sandbox and everything, and it was like all the work and effort done by Marvel on Avengers: EndgameGMW in order for the film to be a satisfying conclusion to the MCU's "Infinity Saga".
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Hayden B.

14 months ago
Score 3
While I do hate The Last Jedi, I just saw The Rise of Skywalker and, honestly, I didn't even think it was a shitty film.
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ChroniclesXII

14 months ago
Score -2
To be honest, I really liked the film when I first watched it, but then after truly rewatching it, it was decent. Not bad, but it was still decent IMHO. I do think Rose is adorbs. Chewie eating a roasted Porg (I just called them birds) in front of a living one was actually funny, not going to lie about that.
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Trevor807

14 months ago
Score 2
Look who’s back.
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Stephenfisher2001

14 months ago
Score 0

And Trevor, Let's prepare for a possible enrage of him! D:

Oh crap... ):
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EijiZeBoi

14 months ago
Score 0
Fuck... *prays to Greta Thunberg so that he doesn't go batshit insane like he did last time*
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ItMeansNothing

14 months ago
Score 1
He'll probably go rouge again in another couple a months or so...
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Trevor807

14 months ago
Score 0
I'm betting that he will. If I bet he doesn't, then I will probably be rich.
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ChroniclesXII

13 months ago
Score 1

It's okay, that was the past. As Kylo Ren says: Let the past die, kill it if you have to. Everything's okay now. It's a new year, a new day.

Why would I enrage? That was like between 3 through 4 months ago at the time of comment.
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EijiZeBoi

13 months ago
Score 2
Yay, my prayer worked!
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ChroniclesXII

13 months ago
Score -1
Yes it did work! What else do I have to say? About Rose, I was not joking, her personality was cute! I just wish she had more screen time in Rise of Skywalker...... :( Though, I still find Holdo an odd character, but that's just my personal opinion. The trinity (Rey, Finn, and Poe) are still a great set of characters; especially Rey since she is the main protagonist.
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EijiZeBoi

13 months ago
Score 0
This is why we should always heil lord Greta Thunberg the great. She'll always answer our prayers and give us joy for years to come, while also campaigning against climate change. :)
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Masson Thief

13 months ago
Score 1
It still was very impolite to immediately assume he would act the same way as before when he didn't.
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EijiZeBoi

13 months ago
Score 6
Apparently, this is the popular opinion about the sequel trilogy from the Star Wars community: J.J. Abrams killed Star Wars. Rian Johnson pissed on her grave.
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Ivan97Miraheze

13 months ago
Score 2
Long story short, the Star Wars sequel trilogy was overhyped and promised more than they delivered, much like the prequel trilogy.
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Trevor807

13 months ago
Score 0
The thing is, Wage, at least he's not being a (gulp) Evil Tim.
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Masson Thief

13 months ago
Score 3
There wasn't any fanboyism in what he said. It seems to me that anything negative or anyone trying to make a point is now regarded as exagerrating or a fanatic.
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ThighFish

5 months ago
Score 0
(B)Rian Johnson
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Trevor807

13 months ago
Score 4
Except Leaving Neverland's hate was justified because, if it were a documentary, it would've provided actual, straight-up facts rather than baseless claims about how the King of Pop is a "pedophile". Robson and Safechuck pretty much committed slander, which is a crime.
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ItMeansNothing

12 months ago
Score 1
🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀THIS MOVIE MADE ME WANT TO SLEEP🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀
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FreezingTNT

12 months ago
Score 0
@Just Wage Do you plan on making a sandbox about your version of the page, similar to what you did with Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice?
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ItMeansNothing

12 months ago
Score 0
Maybe...
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EijiZeBoi

12 months ago
Score 2
My favorite character was Paige Tico.
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ItMeansNothing

12 months ago
Score 2
My favorite scene was the black screen after the credits
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AkihitoZero5454

11 months ago
Score 0
I found it okay.
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Mr. Tenno

11 months ago
Score -2
This film is not bad, but I hate what Disney did to the franchise.
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EijiZeBoi

11 months ago
Score 0
If you look closely at the poster, you can see Obama with Donald Trump's hairdo.
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Jfthelolzor

11 months ago
Score -2

truth be told, this isn't necessarily the best star wars movie, but it's still a great movie

and in all honesty, some scenes are surprisingly avant garde for a space odyssey franchise
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TanReviewer

11 months ago
Score -2
I loved this and the other sequel trilogy films
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EijiZeBoi

9 months ago
Score 2
Star Wars: The Last Jedi is my favorite anime!
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ACoolBlaze5

9 months ago
Score 0
xd
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Emoboy69

9 months ago
Score -2
i liked this movie tbh plz dont be mad at me!
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ACoolBlaze5

9 months ago
Score 0
That's fine.
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A964

3 months ago
Score -1
go to hell
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Anonymy

3 months ago
Score -2
I hate people like you. You think your opinion is the only one that should matter. (this is to a964)
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Anonymy

3 months ago
Score 0
Also, gravedigging?
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Portrock1566

3 months ago
Score 0
Yes you're gravedigging.
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Anonymy

3 months ago
Score 1
ok
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FridayMan

3 months ago
Score -1
A964, why did you disrespect a fucking opinion
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HunterZolomon

9 months ago
Score 2
Damn that porgs are so adorable!
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Okboomer45

9 months ago
Score 0
eh, to be honest, I think it's meh, but I really like the humor in this one. it's probably the funniest, with the exception of A new hope, so far
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Declan Kearns

8 months ago
Score 3
This is hands down the worst Star Wars films film. This is the Alien 3 and Halloween 5 & 6 of the Star Wars franchise.
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EijiZeBoi

8 months ago
Score 0
It's a good anime though.
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ACoolBlaze5

8 months ago
Score 2
YES EIJI. ALL HAIL TLJ!
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Peter Parker

2 months ago
Score -1
Star Wars Episode II: Allow me to introduce myself.
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AttackerAngel85

2 months ago
Score 0
The sequels are the worst thing to happen to Star Wars.
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Transit Vultran

8 months ago
Score -2
I dunno why people are criticizing this movie so badly. It was a great movie in my opinion.
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LoonaHelluva

4 months ago
Score -2
i agree.
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Lake's Wild World

7 months ago
Score 0
This movie isn't fantastic or anything, but I honestly prefer this over episodes 7 and 9.
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Sven206

7 months ago
Score -2
I actually liked this movie
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TanReviewer

6 months ago
Score -8
You guys complain about everything. Grow up people!
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HellLord

6 months ago
Score 4
We have opinions, now please stop disrespecting opinions
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Stephenfisher2001

6 months ago
Score 6
Shut the f*** up!
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Stephenfisher2001

6 months ago
Score 6
I was NOT responding to HellLord, I WAS responding to this Idiot TanReviewer! (Sigh) -_-
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Hookuai

6 months ago
Score 5
How about.... you grow up too TanReviewer
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RobloxMinecraft

one month ago
Score 0
How about you grow up in a dumpster truck
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DatCoolRedstoneGuy Est. 2004

5 months ago
Score 0
I like this movie, but Luke Skywalker's flanderization was VERY forced
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EnnardTrap1987

5 months ago
Score 4
The Last Je-DIES.
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Declan Kearns

5 months ago
Score 3
I just realised something the plot of this movie blatantly plagiarises the story of Crimson Tide and the ending rips off Escape from LA.
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ItMeansNothing

4 months ago
Score 0
Last Jedi > Rise of Skywalker
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Cheddarman

3 months ago
Score 1
Good Quality #10: Frank Oz reprises his role as Master Yoda
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LancedSoul

3 months ago
Score 0
Now that's what I call it.
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Cheddarman

3 months ago
Score -4
EWWWWWWWWWW I CANT BELIEVE I DEFENDED GAY WARS THE WORST MMOVIE FRANCHISE EVER OMG I THINK IM GONNA GET RABBIES!!!!!!!!!
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A964

3 months ago
Score 0
i hate this movie
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SpazJR61

3 months ago
Score 1
The most divisive movie of all time.
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HETMAN

3 months ago
Score 1
this film is the worst star wars movie of all time
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Peter Parker

2 months ago
Score -2
Star Wars Episode II: Am I a joke to you?
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Peter Parker

2 months ago
Score 0
My rating for this one: 54/100
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JDM4678

one month ago
Score 0
This entire trilogy is like the Death Stranding of the Star Wars movies
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XxxRazorbackxxx

17 days ago
Score 0
This entire sequel trilogy deserves a page on it's own.
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SuperStreetKombat

17 days ago
Score 0
Isn't there a rule against adding trilogies, dualogies, etc. to this wiki?
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Masson Thief

17 days ago
Score 0
Yes, there is.

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