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#**It's the only Shrek movie where Shrek doesn’t a roar.
 
#**It's the only Shrek movie where Shrek doesn’t a roar.
 
#**It's the only Shrek movie without a dance party at the end.
 
#**It's the only Shrek movie without a dance party at the end.
#The real reason for the existence of this third installment within the Shrek franchise was that DreamWorks Studios wanted to face or be superior to other animation studios such as Disney (who was going through the second dark age), Pixar, Blue Sky, etc; So it was not only a continuation of Shrek but also an opportunity for the studio to overload or oversell any product that belonged to or had the name of Shrek. This in itself is more evident when in different interviews that were made, the producers of the film such as DreamWorks claimed that this film (Shrek the Third) would be the one that would expand the Shrek franchise; however, this film, instead of being the one that would open, expand or exploit the market with Shrek, was responsible for the franchise ending prematurely in 2010.
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#This film was actually a whim of Dreamworks since the real reason for the existence of this third installment within the Shrek franchise was that DreamWorks Studios wanted to face or be superior to other animation studios such as Disney (which was going through the second dark age ). , Pixar, Blue Sky, etc; Therefore, it was not only a continuation of Shrek but also an opportunity for the studio to overload or oversell any product that belonged to or had the Shrek name on it. This in itself is more evident when in different interviews that were carried out, the producers of the film like DreamWorks affirmed that this film (Shrek the Third) would be the one that would expand the Shrek franchise; On top of that, this movie was a way that DreamWorks wanted to reward itself after the financial disappointment of '''Flushed Away''' and the constant re-recording or poor reception on '''Bee Movie''' test streams.
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#'''Executive Medding''': Originally and almost officially, the film was going to have the work of Andrew Adamson, however, because he was busy directing the sequel to The Chronicles of Narnia, by decision of the studio they removed him from the project, in fact, Dreamworks was the main responsible. Due to the rewriting of the script, in addition to the fact that several original writers of the saga, left the project by decision of the studio, at the same time it was the fault of the producers of Dreamworks, that the film suffered a setback as continuous progress, since during production, not having a script to work with, they constantly changed the story that Andrew Adamson wrote before leaving the project, they ordered the creation of different scripts of which only 3 approved, several of the scenes they had in mind to create had to be eliminated and others that did not even reach the final product (although they were to be included), in addition to the fact that it was also the studio's decision to include too many voice actors for this film.
#*A perfect example that this movie was DreamWorks' attempt to stand up to the other animation studios was that it had a gigantic marketing campaign, far surpassing the one featured by Pixar's [[mh:greatestmovies:Ratatouille]] movie.
 
#*Aside from the above, another example of the movie wanting to overload Shrek's name is that it had the original release date of November 2006; however, it ended ahead of May 18, 2007, to compete with the premiere of Sony's "[[mh:greatestmovies: Spider-Man 3]]" (which had already been released for a week) and Disney's "Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End" (which was to be released a week later), where their marketing took care of everything possible that the public did not pay attention to the aforementioned films.
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#*Aside from the above, the original release date of November 2006; however, it ended ahead of May 18, 2007, to compete with the premiere of Sony's [[mh:greatestmovies: Spider-Man 3]] (which had already been released for a week) and Disney's "Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End" (which was to be released a week later), where their marketing took care of everything possible that the public did not pay attention to the aforementioned films.
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#*On top of that, the studio made the difficult decision to deal with the other animation studios, constantly promoting a gigantic marketing campaign, far surpassing the one presented by the Pixar's [[mh:greatestmovies:Ratatouille]] movie.
 
#**Although it should be noted that premiering in front of those two films that were of high level affected the film's box office performance, since Shrek: The Third took a long time to reach or exceed 750 million, not to mention the fact that different box office screenings said that it was going to raise between 870 or 930 million. In turn for a long period of time, it was not known in a definite way if it's box office was 813 or 796 million dollars.
 
#**Although it should be noted that premiering in front of those two films that were of high level affected the film's box office performance, since Shrek: The Third took a long time to reach or exceed 750 million, not to mention the fact that different box office screenings said that it was going to raise between 870 or 930 million. In turn for a long period of time, it was not known in a definite way if it's box office was 813 or 796 million dollars.
#* Another good example that proves that the only thing DreamWorks Studios wanted with this movie was to sell only Shrek merchandise is that in all the posters, merchandise, or toys of the movie, absolutely or nothing more than just the new characters of the movie appear like Arthur, Merlin, the fairy tale creatures, the princesses, and the fairy tale villains (not to mention the fact that all these characters except for Arthur are not important to the film's plot).
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#* Apart from the aforementioned, it was also the study's decision that in all the posters, merchandise, or toys of the film, there are absolutely or nothing more than the new characters of the film such as Arthur, Merlin, the creatures of fairy tales, the princesses. and the fairytale villains (not to mention the fact that all of these characters except Arthur are not important to the plot of the film), to sell marketing.
#Although it may not seem like it, this film went through problems during it's production, since Andrew Adamson, who was the director and main screenwriter of the second Shrek, had to abandon both the direction and the development of the script of this third film (since he was the director of the "The Chronicles of Narnia" films) so due to scheduling problems he had not worked on the main script of the film, despite presenting some drafts. The same thing happened with the scriptwriters of previous Shrek films such as J David Stem, Joe Stillman, David N. Weiss, Kelly Asbury, Cody Cameron, and Conrad Vernon, who like Andrew did not work on the production of the film's script, apart from the aforementioned this film despite the fact that it had Chris Miller's job, this third film itself had the participation of people outside the concept presented by Shrek, but who were closer to the concept presented by the Madagascar films, even the film had or even had up to three drafts that in the end did not convince the executives as DreamWorks producers, who in the end had to combine each of the drafts to make the main script.
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#'''Production hell:''' Although it may not seem like it, this film went through problems during it's production, since Andrew Adamson, who was the director and main screenwriter of the second Shrek, had to abandon both the direction and the development of the script of this third film (since he was the director of the "The Chronicles of Narnia" films) so due to scheduling problems he had not worked on the main script of the film, despite presenting some drafts. The same thing happened with the scriptwriters of previous Shrek films such as J David Stem, Joe Stillman, David N. Weiss, Kelly Asbury, Cody Cameron, and Conrad Vernon, who like Andrew did not work on the production of the film's script, apart from the aforementioned this film despite the fact that it had Chris Miller's job, Dreamworks literally had to improvise with different writers to complete the story.
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#*Speaking of the subject of the scripts, this third film itself had the participation of people outside the concept presented by Shrek, but who were closer to the concept presented by the Madagascar films, in fact at the time of creating the story the scriptwriters created up to three drafts that ultimately failed executives like DreamWorks Producers, who ultimately had to combine each of the drafts to make the main script.
#*The best evidence that producers as writers had trouble writing the film's script was that the film itself copied various concepts from the Madagascar and Bee Movie films, for the construction of the story.
 
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#**The best evidence that producers as writers had trouble writing the film's script was that the film itself copied various concepts from the Madagascar and Bee Movie films, for the construction of the story.
#**The story, rather than being a sequel or momentous journey for the main characters and minor characters feel more like a complete filler story, which has no impact at the end.
 
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#***The story, rather than being a sequel or momentous journey for the main characters and minor characters feel more like a complete filler story, which has no impact at the end.
#**The story has too many script conveniences to progress the protagonists' journey.
 
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#***The story has too many script conveniences to progress the protagonists' journey.
#**All it's protagonists are very one-dimensional since their development or evolution is very flat.
 
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#***All it's protagonists are very one-dimensional since their development or evolution is very flat.
#**The main premise of the film is completely lost as it jumps from concept to concept.
 
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#***The main premise of the film is completely lost as it jumps from concept to concept.
#**The movie presents a very serious premise that is full of simple comedy or grotesque humor.
 
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#***The movie presents a very serious premise that is full of simple comedy or grotesque humor.
#**The movie uses popular songs at the wrong times.
 
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#***The movie uses popular songs at the wrong times.
#**Main villains as secondary villains have mild reasons to be antagonists, as they are not threats and are only relegated to [[mh:loathsomecharacters: Butt-Monkey]].
 
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#***Main villains as secondary villains have mild reasons to be antagonists, as they are not threats and are only relegated to [[mh:loathsomecharacters: Butt-Monkey]].
#**Many of the supporting characters are only there to serve as comic relief.
 
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#***Many of the supporting characters are only there to serve as comic relief.
#**Each extra characters or environment that appear in the film are typical tropes or cliches in the adventure movie.
 
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#***Each extra characters or environment that appear in the film are typical tropes or cliches in the adventure movie.
#**Violence-like dark moments feel too flat because they are not taken seriously, or flat out they have comedy.
 
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#***Violence-like dark moments feel too flat because they are not taken seriously, or flat out they have comedy.
#**The film repeats too much the environment where the story takes place.
 
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#***The film repeats too much the environment where the story takes place.
#**The third act, rather than being an evolution of the protagonist or a battle where he defeats the villain, ends with extremely superficial or conventional moments.
 
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#***The third act, rather than being an evolution of the protagonist or a battle where he defeats the villain, ends with extremely superficial or conventional moments.
#*Another good example is that this film, although it had four writers to build the script, the truth is that the film had eleven people to build the story, which makes clear the lack of coordination or authority for this project.
 
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#**Another good example is that this film, although it had four writers to build the script, the truth is that the film had eleven people to build the story, which makes clear the lack of coordination or authority for this project.
#*As already mentioned, the film went through production problems to write or develop the main script for the Third Film of the franchise, but what the scriptwriters do almost unjustifiable is that they at the time of developing the story discarded by I complete the vision that Andrew Adamson had prepared in the first drafts, which far from helping the film, the only thing that ended up was hurting it, since of all the things that Shrek the Third lacks, it is to have a good story.
 
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#**As already mentioned, the film went through production problems to write or develop the main script for the Third Film of the franchise, but what the scriptwriters do almost unjustifiable is that they at the time of developing the story discarded by I complete the vision that Andrew Adamson had prepared in the first drafts, which far from helping the film, the only thing that ended up was hurting it, since of all the things that Shrek the Third lacks, it is to have a good story.
#**Speaking of the first draft of the film, as stated above, Andrew Adamson was unable to get 100% involved in the film due to scheduling issues after being the director of "The Chronicles of Narnia", however, in the first draft of Shrek The Third had developed a more concise story, the original story was that ''Shrek had insecurities when assuming the duty of being king of Far Far Away, while Charming now with the powers and army of the Fairy Godmother, seeks to take the kingdom from Shrek,'' although The premise was similar to the movie, the difference is that in Shrek he completely assumed the role or responsibility of king, at the same time, Charming had a development of a spoiled child, a calculating and manipulable villain, unfortunately, the only thing that was taken from that draft was that Charming was going to take over Far Far Away, but all of this was discarded or left in the background.
 
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#***Speaking of the first draft of the film, as stated above, Andrew Adamson was unable to get 100% involved in the film due to scheduling issues after being the director of "The Chronicles of Narnia", however, in the first draft of Shrek The Third had developed a more concise story, the original story was that ''Shrek had insecurities when assuming the duty of being king of Far Far Away, while Charming now with the powers and army of the Fairy Godmother, seeks to take the kingdom from Shrek,'' although The premise was similar to the movie, the difference is that in Shrek he completely assumed the role or responsibility of king, at the same time, Charming had a development of a spoiled child, a calculating and manipulable villain, unfortunately, the only thing that was taken from that draft was that Charming was going to take over Far Far Away, but all of this was discarded or left in the background.
 
#The film completely misses a good premise (Shrek trying to be king). Instead, he decides to implant or jump in different contexts throughout the film, which contributes little or almost nothing to the plot.
 
#The film completely misses a good premise (Shrek trying to be king). Instead, he decides to implant or jump in different contexts throughout the film, which contributes little or almost nothing to the plot.
 
#Despite being a DreamWorks movie, Shrek The Third makes absolutely all the mistakes that the Disney sequels made, which instead of being progress as a franchise, is simply overvaluing and clinging too much to a franchise just because it makes money:
 
#Despite being a DreamWorks movie, Shrek The Third makes absolutely all the mistakes that the Disney sequels made, which instead of being progress as a franchise, is simply overvaluing and clinging too much to a franchise just because it makes money:
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#***In fact, this is the first movie where Shrek does not act with humility, humanity, and empathy.
 
#***In fact, this is the first movie where Shrek does not act with humility, humanity, and empathy.
 
#**Donkey is shown to be an idiotic, incapacitated, and ignorant sidekick of the group, as opposed to Shrek's somewhat silly or naive but kind-hearted, loyal, and (generally) brave friend.
 
#**Donkey is shown to be an idiotic, incapacitated, and ignorant sidekick of the group, as opposed to Shrek's somewhat silly or naive but kind-hearted, loyal, and (generally) brave friend.
#***He also has apparently actually gone to high school and college... for some strange reason, despite being an animal.
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#***In fact, the character's past suffers from retcon, Apparently, he has also gone to high school and college ... for some strange reason, despite being an animal.
 
#**Instead of being Shrek's loyal and skilled cat companion, Puss is portrayed as an inveterate womanizer, also relegated to the group's idiot partner, not to mention that he is also portrayed as the group's bully or joker sadist.
 
#**Instead of being Shrek's loyal and skilled cat companion, Puss is portrayed as an inveterate womanizer, also relegated to the group's idiot partner, not to mention that he is also portrayed as the group's bully or joker sadist.
 
#**Fiona is portrayed as the typical trope of the protagonist's fragile girlfriend or wife, instead of being the princess who wants everyone to see that Shrek has humanity.
 
#**Fiona is portrayed as the typical trope of the protagonist's fragile girlfriend or wife, instead of being the princess who wants everyone to see that Shrek has humanity.
#***It is implied Fiona received her karate-like melee skills from her mother; this contradicts the inference in the first film that she taught herself melee during her time in the Dragon's Keep.
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#***In fact, in this film Fiona's past is rewritten, as it is implied that Fiona received her karate-like melee abilities from her mother; this contradicts the inference in the first movie that she taught herself melee during her time in the Dragon Fortress.
 
#**Queen Lilian went from a good advisor and tolerant mother to just a weak old woman with skills.
 
#**Queen Lilian went from a good advisor and tolerant mother to just a weak old woman with skills.
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#***Speaking of which, there is a moment in the movie where she is directly told that she is '''useless'''.
 
#**Although he only appears in two minutes, King Harold instead of being the developed antihero, falls into the trope of "Character who is sick or Dies and leaves a legacy", which although it could be explored, due to the poor execution King Harold also mostly becomes the tropes of "Dead character who apparently never existed" and "Character who dies to make people laugh".
 
#**Although he only appears in two minutes, King Harold instead of being the developed antihero, falls into the trope of "Character who is sick or Dies and leaves a legacy", which although it could be explored, due to the poor execution King Harold also mostly becomes the tropes of "Dead character who apparently never existed" and "Character who dies to make people laugh".
 
#***Which is terrible if you assume the character was important and could be used in the best way.
 
#***Which is terrible if you assume the character was important and could be used in the best way.
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#*On the poster for the DVD editions of the film, Shrek, Donkey, and Puss can be seen swinging on a chain. This also does not happen in the film.
 
#*On the poster for the DVD editions of the film, Shrek, Donkey, and Puss can be seen swinging on a chain. This also does not happen in the film.
 
#*In an interview with the film's producers, they stated that King Harold was going to have an important role in the film or that he was going to have a leading role. However, King Harold only appears in two minutes maximum, and although his death is a plot trigger, it is easily forgotten due to it's shallow depth.
 
#*In an interview with the film's producers, they stated that King Harold was going to have an important role in the film or that he was going to have a leading role. However, King Harold only appears in two minutes maximum, and although his death is a plot trigger, it is easily forgotten due to it's shallow depth.
#Similar to the case of the animated films like [[Cars 2]], [[Minions]], or films such as A Nightmare on Elm Street 2: Freddy’s Revenge, [[X-Men: The Last Stand]], [[X-Men Origins: Wolverine]] and [[Alvin and the Chipmunks: Chipwrecked]], Shrek the Third does not have a great or no impact on the franchise as was Shrek, Shrek 2 or Puss in Boots, since most of the events that occur in the film can be omitted without any problem, the only events or contributions that can be considered important of the film for the franchise are the death of King Harold ''(Although not so much)'', the surrender of the villains ''(Although not so much)'', and the birth of Shrek's children.
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#Similar to the case of the animated films like [[Cars 2]], [[Minions]], or films such as Halloween III: Season of the Witch, A Nightmare on Elm Street 2: Freddy’s Revenge, [[X-Men: The Last Stand]], [[X-Men Origins: Wolverine]] and [[Alvin and the Chipmunks: Chipwrecked]], Shrek the Third does not have a great or no impact on the franchise as was Shrek, Shrek 2 or Puss in Boots, since most of the events that occur in the film can be omitted without any problem, the only events or contributions that can be considered important of the film for the franchise are the death of King Harold ''(Although not so much)'', the surrender of the villains ''(Although not so much)'', and the birth of Shrek's children.
 
#*Speaking of the case of impact on the franchise, Shrek the Third can be overlooked, and literally, nothing is lost, as most of its events are completely ignored in '''Shrek Forever After''' as in '''Shrek's Christmas or Halloween shorts''', or suffer almost 80% of '''retcon''', for example:
 
#*Speaking of the case of impact on the franchise, Shrek the Third can be overlooked, and literally, nothing is lost, as most of its events are completely ignored in '''Shrek Forever After''' as in '''Shrek's Christmas or Halloween shorts''', or suffer almost 80% of '''retcon''', for example:
 
#**Rumpelstiltskin, the character that appears in this film, has no relation to the Rumpelstiltskin of the fourth film if one talks about his personality, design, behavior, attitude, and motivation.
 
#**Rumpelstiltskin, the character that appears in this film, has no relation to the Rumpelstiltskin of the fourth film if one talks about his personality, design, behavior, attitude, and motivation.
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#****In the same way, their original presence in Shrek Forever After would also be considered irrelevant or filler since they had an extra role.
 
#****In the same way, their original presence in Shrek Forever After would also be considered irrelevant or filler since they had an extra role.
 
#**It is assumed that Prince Charming was left poor after the events of the second film, he was also defeated by Shrek and crushed by a tower in the third film, however in the fourth film this is completely omitted, in fact in the shorts it is makes it clear that he's still '''alive, he's got money, and now he's good (being the short Shrek - M.J. Thriller HD the one that confirms all this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG5XcHsgzZY])''', even in the video game that came out based on the movie the character is alive.
 
#**It is assumed that Prince Charming was left poor after the events of the second film, he was also defeated by Shrek and crushed by a tower in the third film, however in the fourth film this is completely omitted, in fact in the shorts it is makes it clear that he's still '''alive, he's got money, and now he's good (being the short Shrek - M.J. Thriller HD the one that confirms all this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG5XcHsgzZY])''', even in the video game that came out based on the movie the character is alive.
#**It is assumed that in this film '''King Harold dies''', however in Shrek Forever After his '''death is ignored''', being in the credits where it is '''confirmed that he died''', however, if the final credits are omitted the fate of the '''character remains ambiguous''', the same can be said of the flashbacks of Shrek III in the end credits, with the scene of '''King Harold in his bed eating a fly (after faking his death)''', which also becomes ambiguous, this also applies in the shorts.
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#**It is assumed that in this film '''King Harold dies''', however in Shrek Forever After his '''death is ignored''', being in the credits where it is '''confirmed that he died''', however, if the final credits are omitted the fate of the '''character remains ambiguous''', the same can be said of the flashbacks of Shrek the Third in the end credits, with the scene of '''King Harold in his bed eating a fly (after faking his death)''', which also becomes ambiguous, this also applies in the shorts.
 
#**The villains from the fairy tales are supposed to have attacked the kingdom, as in the case of Arthur, they don't seem to have dealt any blow to the kingdom, in fact, the only thing that is mentioned of them in Shrek Forever After is in a dialogue from the fourth film where it is said that, with the marriage of Shrek and Fiona, '''''they became good and lived in peace''''', the same can be said in the shorts.
 
#**The villains from the fairy tales are supposed to have attacked the kingdom, as in the case of Arthur, they don't seem to have dealt any blow to the kingdom, in fact, the only thing that is mentioned of them in Shrek Forever After is in a dialogue from the fourth film where it is said that, with the marriage of Shrek and Fiona, '''''they became good and lived in peace''''', the same can be said in the shorts.
 
#**Merlin is supposed to be an omnipotent being who now lives in Far Far Away, just like Arthur's case, he seems to have never existed.
 
#**Merlin is supposed to be an omnipotent being who now lives in Far Far Away, just like Arthur's case, he seems to have never existed.
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#**Rapunzel supposedly had an affair with Charming and betrayed Fiona, however, in the fourth film as in the shorts she does not appear and it does not even seem that Fiona knows her or lives in Far Far Away.
 
#**Rapunzel supposedly had an affair with Charming and betrayed Fiona, however, in the fourth film as in the shorts she does not appear and it does not even seem that Fiona knows her or lives in Far Far Away.
 
#**The princesses are supposed to be unwavering friends of Fiona, in the fourth film they only appear in the credits, in the shorts they do not appear or are not even mentioned.
 
#**The princesses are supposed to be unwavering friends of Fiona, in the fourth film they only appear in the credits, in the shorts they do not appear or are not even mentioned.
#As in the case of the films A Nightmare on Elm Street 2: Freddy’s Revenge, A Nightmare on Elm Street 5: The Dream Child, Freddy’s Dead: The Final Nightmare, [[Friday the 13th: A New Beginning]], Jason Goes to Hell: The Final Friday, Jason X, [[Ice Age: Collision Course]], Planes: Fire & Rescue, [[Cars 2]], [[Planes]], [[Solo: A Star Wars Story]], [[The Last Airbender]], [[Fantastic Four (2015)]], [[Star Wars: The Last Jedi]], [[Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker]], [[Seed of Chucky]], [[Pacific Rim Uprising]], and [[The Amazing Spider-Man 2: Rise of Electro]], that affected their respective franchises, Shrek The Third was the main responsible for the Shrek saga ending so abruptly, since, before the premiere of Shrek The Third, Dreamworks had planned that Shrek would be a saga with a fourth film with the name '''Shrek Goes Fourth''' that would be released in 2010, and '''Shrek 5''' that would be released in 2013 '''(There was even the idea of a Shrek 6 to complete the saga)''', at the same time it was planned to release '''several Spin-off ​films based''' on the characters from the Shrek universe '''(such as Puss, Donkey, Fiona, Pinocchio, the Three Pigs, the Bad Wolf and among others'''), this also included '''the creation of a television series''' starring fairy tale creatures having adventures in Far Far Away and the creation of many shorts starring Shrek and his friend, however, due to poor reception from both the public, fans, and critics, the financial disappointment for not meeting the studio's expectations such as Shrek The Third low marketing sales and the hard time its voice actors had (mainly '''Mike Myers''' after the premiere of [[The Love Guru]]), all these projects were unexpectedly paused, being 2008 where it was confirmed that Shrek Goes Fourth was modified to Shrek Forever After, at the same time that Shrek 5 was canceled and the idea of Shrek 6 was completely discarded, this also happened with the Spin-Off movies (Puss in Boots only came out of the strains), the television series was canceled and the multiple shorts that were had in mind were reduced to 4 shorts.
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#As in the case of the films Halloween III: Season of the Witch, Halloween 5: The Revenge of Michael Myers, Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers, Halloween: Resurrection, A Nightmare on Elm Street 2: Freddy’s Revenge, A Nightmare on Elm Street 5: The Dream Child, Freddy’s Dead: The Final Nightmare, [[Friday the 13th: A New Beginning]], Jason Goes to Hell: The Final Friday, Jason X, [[Ice Age: Collision Course]], Planes: Fire & Rescue, [[Cars 2]], [[Planes]], [[Solo: A Star Wars Story]], [[The Last Airbender]], [[Fantastic Four (2015)]], [[Star Wars: The Last Jedi]], [[Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker]], [[Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines]], [[Terminator Salvation]], [[Terminator Genisys]], [[Terminator: Dark Fate]], [[Seed of Chucky]], [[Pacific Rim Uprising]], [[Transformers: The Last Knight]], and [[The Amazing Spider-Man 2: Rise of Electro]], that affected their respective franchises, Shrek The Third was the main responsible for the Shrek saga ending so abruptly, since, before the premiere of Shrek The Third, Dreamworks had planned that Shrek would be a saga with a fourth film with the name '''Shrek Goes Fourth''' that would be released in 2010, and '''Shrek 5''' that would be released in 2013 '''(There was even the idea of a Shrek 6 to complete the saga)''', at the same time it was planned to release '''several Spin-off ​films based''' on the characters from the Shrek universe '''(such as Puss, Donkey, Fiona, Pinocchio, the Three Pigs, the Bad Wolf and among others'''), this also included '''the creation of a television series''' starring fairy tale creatures having adventures in Far Far Away and the creation of many shorts starring Shrek and his friend, however, due to poor reception from both the public, fans, and critics, the financial disappointment for not meeting the studio's expectations such as Shrek The Third low marketing sales and the hard time its voice actors had (mainly '''Mike Myers''' after the premiere of [[The Love Guru]]), all these projects were unexpectedly paused, being 2008 where it was confirmed that Shrek Goes Fourth was modified to Shrek Forever After, at the same time that Shrek 5 was canceled and the idea of Shrek 6 was completely discarded, this also happened with the Spin-Off movies (Puss in Boots only came out of the strains), the television series was canceled and the multiple shorts that were had in mind were reduced to 4 shorts.
 
#*Speaking of the impact of Shrek The Third, this film '''marked the end and the beginning''' of a DreamWorks era, as thanks to the premiere of '''Shrek The Third as Bee-Movie''', DreamWorks began to cease to be seen as an innovative story-making studio that defeated Disney like Pixar, but as a studio that only imported profits such as sales and not quality, in turn after saturating Shrek in the market, it was also seen as a studio that could not abandon Shrek, thus generating more money in his cinematographic history, causing the public to no longer take his projects seriously.
 
#*Speaking of the impact of Shrek The Third, this film '''marked the end and the beginning''' of a DreamWorks era, as thanks to the premiere of '''Shrek The Third as Bee-Movie''', DreamWorks began to cease to be seen as an innovative story-making studio that defeated Disney like Pixar, but as a studio that only imported profits such as sales and not quality, in turn after saturating Shrek in the market, it was also seen as a studio that could not abandon Shrek, thus generating more money in his cinematographic history, causing the public to no longer take his projects seriously.
 
#*In addition to the above, Shrek The Third, gained a '''negative legacy in the history of animation''', as it led many animators to place Shrek The Third as an example of what should not be put in a sequel, in turn, this film sparked many studies by mistake creating animated films based on the ideas used in Shrek The Third as a sure success '''(saturating the cinema with mediocre children's animation films leaving quality aside)''', and this, in turn, caused many viewers '''to defend and admire''' DreamWorks films becoming '''critics or reviewers''' of them.
 
#*In addition to the above, Shrek The Third, gained a '''negative legacy in the history of animation''', as it led many animators to place Shrek The Third as an example of what should not be put in a sequel, in turn, this film sparked many studies by mistake creating animated films based on the ideas used in Shrek The Third as a sure success '''(saturating the cinema with mediocre children's animation films leaving quality aside)''', and this, in turn, caused many viewers '''to defend and admire''' DreamWorks films becoming '''critics or reviewers''' of them.
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Shrek the Third
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Somebody once told me this film was gonna bore me, it ain't the sharpest film in the franchise.
Genre: Animation
Comedy
Fantasy
Directed By: Chris Miller
Raman Hui (co-director)
Written By: Jeffrey Price
Peter S. Seaman
Chris Miller
Aron Warner
Starring: Mike Myers
Eddie Murphy
Cameron Diaz
Antonio Banderas
Julie Andrews
John Cleese
Rupert Everett
Eric Idle
Justin Timberlake
Seth Rogen
Maya Rudolph
Amy Sedaris
Amy Poehler
Photography: Color
Distributed By: Paramount Pictures
DreamWorks Animation
Release Date: May 6, 2007 (Mann Village Theatre)
May 18, 2007 (United States)
Runtime: 93 minutes
Country: United States
Prequel: Shrek 2
Sequel: Shrek Forever After: The Final Chapter


Shrek the Third (also simply known as Shrek 3) is a 2007 American computer-animated fantasy comedy film directed by Chris Miller and co-directed by Raman Hui. It is the third installment in the Shrek film franchise and serves as a sequel to Shrek 2. The premiered at the Mann Village Theatre, Westwood in Los Angeles on May 6, 2007, and was released in the United States on May 18, 2007.

Plot

When King Harold suddenly croaks, Shrek learns he will have to rule the land of Far, Far Away, unless he can find a suitable heir to the throne. The most promising candidate is Princess Fiona's cousin Artie, a teenage slacker in a medieval high school. Shrek and his trusted companions, Donkey and Puss in Boots, set out to bring Artie back but find their mission is a bigger challenge than they expected.

Bad Qualities

  1. This film is inferior to the first two Shrek films, and it lacks any charm or charisma of the first two in terms of storytelling, characters, music, and humor, as almost every joke in the film is incredibly tasteless and unfunny compared to the first two, particularly when Shrek accidentally puts his sword into a guy's shoulder while practicing knighting.
    • On the topic of lacking the charm of the previous two films, Shrek the Third lacks many of the characteristic things from the previous two films and its followup including:
      • It's the only Shrek movie where doesn’t appear a character reading a fairy tale in the beginning of the movie.
      • It's the only Shrek movie without an appearance from Fiona's human form.
      • It's the only Shrek movie where Shrek doesn’t a roar.
      • It's the only Shrek movie without a dance party at the end.
  2. This film was actually a whim of Dreamworks since the real reason for the existence of this third installment within the Shrek franchise was that DreamWorks Studios wanted to face or be superior to other animation studios such as Disney (which was going through the second dark age ). , Pixar, Blue Sky, etc; Therefore, it was not only a continuation of Shrek but also an opportunity for the studio to overload or oversell any product that belonged to or had the Shrek name on it. This in itself is more evident when in different interviews that were carried out, the producers of the film like DreamWorks affirmed that this film (Shrek the Third) would be the one that would expand the Shrek franchise; On top of that, this movie was a way that DreamWorks wanted to reward itself after the financial disappointment of Flushed Away and the constant re-recording or poor reception on Bee Movie test streams.
  3. Executive Medding: Originally and almost officially, the film was going to have the work of Andrew Adamson, however, because he was busy directing the sequel to The Chronicles of Narnia, by decision of the studio they removed him from the project, in fact, Dreamworks was the main responsible. Due to the rewriting of the script, in addition to the fact that several original writers of the saga, left the project by decision of the studio, at the same time it was the fault of the producers of Dreamworks, that the film suffered a setback as continuous progress, since during production, not having a script to work with, they constantly changed the story that Andrew Adamson wrote before leaving the project, they ordered the creation of different scripts of which only 3 approved, several of the scenes they had in mind to create had to be eliminated and others that did not even reach the final product (although they were to be included), in addition to the fact that it was also the studio's decision to include too many voice actors for this film.
    • Aside from the above, the original release date of November 2006; however, it ended ahead of May 18, 2007, to compete with the premiere of Sony's Spider-Man 3 (which had already been released for a week) and Disney's "Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End" (which was to be released a week later), where their marketing took care of everything possible that the public did not pay attention to the aforementioned films.
    • On top of that, the studio made the difficult decision to deal with the other animation studios, constantly promoting a gigantic marketing campaign, far surpassing the one presented by the Pixar's Ratatouille movie.
      • Although it should be noted that premiering in front of those two films that were of high level affected the film's box office performance, since Shrek: The Third took a long time to reach or exceed 750 million, not to mention the fact that different box office screenings said that it was going to raise between 870 or 930 million. In turn for a long period of time, it was not known in a definite way if it's box office was 813 or 796 million dollars.
    • Apart from the aforementioned, it was also the study's decision that in all the posters, merchandise, or toys of the film, there are absolutely or nothing more than the new characters of the film such as Arthur, Merlin, the creatures of fairy tales, the princesses. and the fairytale villains (not to mention the fact that all of these characters except Arthur are not important to the plot of the film), to sell marketing.
  4. Production hell: Although it may not seem like it, this film went through problems during it's production, since Andrew Adamson, who was the director and main screenwriter of the second Shrek, had to abandon both the direction and the development of the script of this third film (since he was the director of the "The Chronicles of Narnia" films) so due to scheduling problems he had not worked on the main script of the film, despite presenting some drafts. The same thing happened with the scriptwriters of previous Shrek films such as J David Stem, Joe Stillman, David N. Weiss, Kelly Asbury, Cody Cameron, and Conrad Vernon, who like Andrew did not work on the production of the film's script, apart from the aforementioned this film despite the fact that it had Chris Miller's job, Dreamworks literally had to improvise with different writers to complete the story.
    • Speaking of the subject of the scripts, this third film itself had the participation of people outside the concept presented by Shrek, but who were closer to the concept presented by the Madagascar films, in fact at the time of creating the story the scriptwriters created up to three drafts that ultimately failed executives like DreamWorks Producers, who ultimately had to combine each of the drafts to make the main script.
      • The best evidence that producers as writers had trouble writing the film's script was that the film itself copied various concepts from the Madagascar and Bee Movie films, for the construction of the story.
        • The story, rather than being a sequel or momentous journey for the main characters and minor characters feel more like a complete filler story, which has no impact at the end.
        • The story has too many script conveniences to progress the protagonists' journey.
        • All it's protagonists are very one-dimensional since their development or evolution is very flat.
        • The main premise of the film is completely lost as it jumps from concept to concept.
        • The movie presents a very serious premise that is full of simple comedy or grotesque humor.
        • The movie uses popular songs at the wrong times.
        • Main villains as secondary villains have mild reasons to be antagonists, as they are not threats and are only relegated to Butt-Monkey.
        • Many of the supporting characters are only there to serve as comic relief.
        • Each extra characters or environment that appear in the film are typical tropes or cliches in the adventure movie.
        • Violence-like dark moments feel too flat because they are not taken seriously, or flat out they have comedy.
        • The film repeats too much the environment where the story takes place.
        • The third act, rather than being an evolution of the protagonist or a battle where he defeats the villain, ends with extremely superficial or conventional moments.
      • Another good example is that this film, although it had four writers to build the script, the truth is that the film had eleven people to build the story, which makes clear the lack of coordination or authority for this project.
      • As already mentioned, the film went through production problems to write or develop the main script for the Third Film of the franchise, but what the scriptwriters do almost unjustifiable is that they at the time of developing the story discarded by I complete the vision that Andrew Adamson had prepared in the first drafts, which far from helping the film, the only thing that ended up was hurting it, since of all the things that Shrek the Third lacks, it is to have a good story.
        • Speaking of the first draft of the film, as stated above, Andrew Adamson was unable to get 100% involved in the film due to scheduling issues after being the director of "The Chronicles of Narnia", however, in the first draft of Shrek The Third had developed a more concise story, the original story was that Shrek had insecurities when assuming the duty of being king of Far Far Away, while Charming now with the powers and army of the Fairy Godmother, seeks to take the kingdom from Shrek, although The premise was similar to the movie, the difference is that in Shrek he completely assumed the role or responsibility of king, at the same time, Charming had a development of a spoiled child, a calculating and manipulable villain, unfortunately, the only thing that was taken from that draft was that Charming was going to take over Far Far Away, but all of this was discarded or left in the background.
  5. The film completely misses a good premise (Shrek trying to be king). Instead, he decides to implant or jump in different contexts throughout the film, which contributes little or almost nothing to the plot.
  6. Despite being a DreamWorks movie, Shrek The Third makes absolutely all the mistakes that the Disney sequels made, which instead of being progress as a franchise, is simply overvaluing and clinging too much to a franchise just because it makes money:
    • Shrek does not learn anything from this adventure and does not really face anything;
    • The story far from being a continuation seems a separate story (Shrek wants to avoid responsibilities);
    • Except for Shrek, the other protagonists are only filling or comic filling;
    • Clinging to the past of the movies without exploring it's potential in the world;
    • The story repeats many cliches to continue it;
    • The music instead of being relaxing is out of place and forgettable;
    • The story goes nowhere;
    • Several of its secondary characters (like Artie and the princesses)are only there to continue the story and that's it;
    • Characters act strangely, lacking in emotion and empathy;
    • The story has several inconsistencies with Shrek 2 or the Shrek Universe as a whole;
    • The problems of the film are solved in the most stupid way possible (The villains are going to take down the protagonist and his allies, but they redeem themselves with the typical trope of generic cliche speech);
    • Instead of being a threat, Prince Charming is a boring, boastful and cowardly shadow of the former antagonists;
    • Everyone lives happily ever after except the villain who is crushed by a tower.
  7. The film can be way too dark and edgy for a children's film because there is a surprisingly large count of casualties... in a children's film. Particular examples include a scene where Shrek accidentally causes a ship to sink as dozens of people are killed in the process, as well as the deaths of King Harold and Prince Charming, respectively.
    • It doesn't help that Shrek's nightmare sequence is too frightening for a children's movie, especially the part where the ogre baby-faced Donkey says "Dada!".
  8. Another major problem with this film is that as in the case of Ice Age: Collision Course, it does not know how to correctly distribute the theme or main story of the film, in addition to this being the first film in the Shrek franchise that has an excessive number of subplots precisely fifteen (being more than four or five that were adequately developed in Shrek, Shrek 2, Shrek Forever After and Puss in Boots), this being a serious problem since the film does not define which plot is the main one of the film, for mention that only three subplots stand out, while all the others have terrible development or execution that makes them feel rushed and out of context, as well as not being adequately resolved:
    • As already mentioned, the film has a total of fifteen subplots of which only three stand out, which instead of offering something interesting, are only overloading the film, of all these they only stand out:
      • Shrek, Donkey, and Puss are on their journey in search of Artie to be a new King.
      • Prince Charming taking revenge on Shrek and his friends.
      • Shrek has dilemmas about having children and being a good father.
    • Only these three subplots are the only relevant ones in the movies, while the other subplots, as already mentioned, are only filler, and hardly contribute to the film since some are easily forgotten or are left in the second and third planes:
      • Shrek assuming the responsibilities of being king.
      • Shrek and Fiona seek to start a family.
      • Shrek seeks to evade the responsibilities of being king.
      • The death of King Harold.
      • Fiona is pregnant and will have children.
      • Prince Charming and all the villains stage a coup by taking over Far Far Away.
      • Artie and Shrek become friends.
      • Artie with his "abandoned marginalized and misunderstood young man" dilemma.
      • Donkey and Puss changing bodies.
      • All of Shrek's friends rebel against Prince Charming
      • Prince Charming seeks to perform a musical theater play to become king.
      • Romance between Prince Charming and Rapunzel.
  9. Shrek's character arc of becoming a father with babies is botched in terms of execution; in Shrek 2 he was afraid of losing Fiona, reinforced by well-written dialogue and somber scenes of contemplation. The way this film treats this involves visualizing his fears of raising babies in the form of a nightmare, which is rather uncompelling in terms of execution.
    • This plot of Shrek about to become a father also feels very unnecessary and forced, there are only a few scenes that focus on this and the ogre babies are only there so that the movie can have a happy ending but other than that, this contributes nothing to the film.
  10. Even though the first two acts have their decent moments, however, the third act falls to a predictable and unfunny finale.
    • On the topic of predictability, if one looks closely at some of the promotional posters, trailers, and even the DVD cover for the film, the ogre babies are seen, which just spoils the ending.
  11. King Harold's death is very tasteless, as he does not one, but two fake-out deaths, before he dies for real this time; his death is also supposed to be heartbreaking and serious, but it is instead filled with pointless and unfunny gags, like when he eats a fly after his second fake-out death and it's not really a good idea to make this scene like this, it RUINS everything in the emotional scene!
    • Speaking of the death of King Harold, it at some point feels forced, because the character although he had a leading role in Shrek 2, the truth is that he was used in a relatively short time within the franchise, so that his death does not make it emotional or endearing as was the case with the deaths in the Kung Fu Panda and How to Train Your Dragon trilogies respectively.
      • Besides it is useless that the character is presented from his first appearance (Shrek 2) not as a deuteragonist but more as a redemptive antihero.
    • Another problem with the death of King Harold is that it is not memorable, due to it's animation, since it's animation or the movements that the character makes are too flat (this being visible when he speaks), it reaches some grotesque point (mainly when he fakes his death) and the panoramic view that is made only focuses on his face, completely ruining the moment.
    • The attitude of the characters who witnessed his death (mainly Puss, Shrek, and Fiona) do not show an attitude of humanity or melancholy, but of almost disinterest and apathy.
    • A very notorious problem is that John Cleese's voice as King Harold sounds too overwhelming, muffled, and feigned causing his voice to cause laughter or involuntary comedy, this is more evident when in the international dubbing of the films, the voice actors of King Harold use tones to express sadness.
    • Apart from the above, his death does not cause emotional damage or development to the main character (Shrek) or the deuteragonists (Donkey, Puss, Fiona, Lilian, or Arthur), not to mention that it is easily or completely forgotten during the second and third act.
  12. The film has far too many protagonists, including new characters such as the princesses, Arthur Pendragon, and Merlin the Wizard, and as a result, the story becomes confusing and muddled.
    • In fact, there are only 3 relevant characters in the story: Shrek, Arthur and Prince Charming since the others (even Fiona who only tells Shrek that she is pregnant and allies with the princesses against Charming) don't or barely contribute anything to the story
  13. Prince Charming is supposed to be the main antagonist of the film and is actually a reasonable choice in terms of his motivations; however, he's basically treated as a Butt-Monkey, which makes the film's audience feel a bit of sympathy for him when they aren't supposed to; he is also bland as the main villain of the film and is not as threatening or entertaining as Lord Farquaad (Shrek), Fairy Godmother (Shrek 2) or Rumpelstiltskin (Shrek Forever After: The Final Chapter), instead he literally behaves like a spoiled brat and you can't take him seriously.
    • The most pathetic thing about Charming is that his evil plan basically consists of setting up a musical play in which he intends to kill Shrek in front of the kingdom, and when this happens at the end of the movie neither Shrek, the kingdom, or even the viewer take him seriously due to his behavior (and awful singing) to the point where Charming's play becomes a Shrek's stand-up in which he constantly ridiculizes him.
    • In addition to that, it is worth mentioning that keeping Charming as a villain considering that he was also an antagonist in the second film, is a great failure on the part of the film's writers since technically they never understood the true role or the creation of the characters in the saga, since Charming was created as a cliché character of the animation "The perfect subject that everyone loves and wants to be like him", in fact, if taking into account only the role he had in the second film makes it clear that Charming was not created specifically to be a villain, but as the stereotype of the fragile prince (Disney's most worn), therefore making him assume the role of antagonist is not at all reliable, in fact, if we observed that in the first draft he was going to make a villain, it was a complex task to turn an empty character into a sadistic and calculating villain.
  14. As already mentioned in the previous points, the film introduces too many main characters as secondary characters, however unlike the Shrek, Shrek 2, Shrek Forever After and Puss in Boots, like the other animated films with a large variety of characters such as Rango, Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse, Atlantis: The Lost Empire, Treasure Planet, The Incredibles, Wreck-It Ralph or the Toy Story franchise, Shrek the Third wastes the most of it's characters that most are only to sell in marketing, not to mention the fact that the characters have too much, that they make them feel out of place, or as parodies.
    • For this reason, it is almost difficult to identify or worry about what happens to the characters at the same time, each of them, whether they are the classics or the new ones, has too many problems that make them look one-dimensional or flanked, since finally, none has developed, in fact, some of them are inspired more than anything by the typical trope of an adventure film making nearly everyone in this film seemingly acts very differently from in the previous films; for example, Shrek's entire character is changed to fit the babies into the story.
    • Perhaps the most unfortunate of all these characters is that none of them are memorable or charismatic, in fact, they are completely forgettable, nothing helps that the main, secondary, and extras characters of Shrek, Shrek 2, Shrek Forever After, and Puss in Boots are more beloved than all those featured in this movie.
      • Shrek goes from being an insecure ogre who doubts himself with the world around him to an almost indifferent or apathetic subject who wants to avoid his responsibilities, as if that were not enough, he is also given the personality of a subject arrogant, proud, and pedantic.
        • In fact, this is the first movie where Shrek does not act with humility, humanity, and empathy.
      • Donkey is shown to be an idiotic, incapacitated, and ignorant sidekick of the group, as opposed to Shrek's somewhat silly or naive but kind-hearted, loyal, and (generally) brave friend.
        • In fact, the character's past suffers from retcon, Apparently, he has also gone to high school and college ... for some strange reason, despite being an animal.
      • Instead of being Shrek's loyal and skilled cat companion, Puss is portrayed as an inveterate womanizer, also relegated to the group's idiot partner, not to mention that he is also portrayed as the group's bully or joker sadist.
      • Fiona is portrayed as the typical trope of the protagonist's fragile girlfriend or wife, instead of being the princess who wants everyone to see that Shrek has humanity.
        • In fact, in this film Fiona's past is rewritten, as it is implied that Fiona received her karate-like melee abilities from her mother; this contradicts the inference in the first movie that she taught herself melee during her time in the Dragon Fortress.
      • Queen Lilian went from a good advisor and tolerant mother to just a weak old woman with skills.
        • Speaking of which, there is a moment in the movie where she is directly told that she is useless.
      • Although he only appears in two minutes, King Harold instead of being the developed antihero, falls into the trope of "Character who is sick or Dies and leaves a legacy", which although it could be explored, due to the poor execution King Harold also mostly becomes the tropes of "Dead character who apparently never existed" and "Character who dies to make people laugh".
        • Which is terrible if you assume the character was important and could be used in the best way.
        • In addition to that, the development that he had in the second film is left on the toilet, since the change that King Harold had is never deepened, more than a dialogue that does not contribute anything.
      • Instead of being an aimless young man who must assume a great responsibility (like Po in Kung Fu Panda or Hiccup in How to Train Your Dragon), Arthur only limits himself to making a trope of the typical immature character that by chance of fate must be king, and does not want to accept that position, or that he agrees to become king for the interests, because it has tragic and regrettable past, although he finally does so within minutes of everyone dying. Him also being bullied all the time in school and being unpopular is a weak character decision for the main character.
        • Whether or not we take into account his past, Arthur is an extremely flat character, without a clear motivation most of the time. In addition, this character is very poorly implemented in the franchise, since he literally comes out of nowhere. At the same time, he is a poorly made combination of the viewer-annoying character trope and the useless character it gives the protagonist, which is terrible if you assume he's one of the main characters or one of the few that stands out from the movie.
        • As already mentioned, Arthur is poorly implemented, since although it is explained he is King Harold's nephew and Fiona's cousin, the main problem is that in the previous films it was never mentioned that Harold or Lilian had brothers or sisters, or that Fiona had uncles within ​the lineage family. Not to mention, it does not make sense that his father (who is never mentioned if he is related to Harold or Lilian), being part of royalty, abandoned his son and disappeared in an unexplained way or that Arthur, if he is the nephew of someone with power, would be an outcast student.
          • In fact, another point that shows that Arthur is a useless or forced character in the film was that in Andrew Adamson's first draft, Arthur was going to do an extra (or he wasn't even going to appear); this said by Andrew himself, which guarantees the forced presentation of him.
        • Another of the biggest problems that Arthur has is that he has a completely one-dimensional personality throughout the film; first, he appears first as a lonely young man with self-esteem problems, but suddenly he acts like a young conceited, arrogant, cowardly, and very apathetic, who does not care what happens to him, then without warning he acts as an anarchist and manipulable subject who seeks his own benefit, and finally acts as someone who complains about the most insignificant things. Taking into account this clash of personalities, it's impossible to take Arthur seriously.
          • It doesn't help anything that in the original script for Shrek Forever After, Arthur was still a presumptuous and arrogant young man, proving that Arthur would not have any development in the franchise.
          • The worst part about this is that this attitude makes you hate the character, and not care what happens to him.
        • Perhaps the most unfortunate thing about Arthur, is that the character had great potential within the franchise but is poorly implemented and his one-dimensional personality, Arthur becomes the trope of "Important character one day and never existed the next day."
      • Merlin is the typical senile old man with an insane, clumsy or perverted attitude, who instead of being the powerful sorcerer that he is supposed to be, is a useless disabled old man, and ignorant in several aspects.
        • In fact, Merlin is supposed to be an omnipotent character, but in the minutes he appears he turns out to be a very poorly made parody of the Fairy Godmother or the magic mirror.
        • On top of that, Merlin doesn't have a defined personality in the movie, as he first acts as a wise man, but suddenly acts like a man with dementia or senility, then like a depraved old man, then like someone almost illiterate. and finally as an intelligent subject.
        • Most pathetic of all, his voice actor Eric Idle and the producers confirmed that Merlin's purpose is to "make the audience laugh". Instead however. it causes the audience to be embarrassed.
      • All princesses are portrayed under the typical trope of good attractive girls in an adventure story and nothing more than that.
      • The fairy tale creatures instead of being the final friends of Shrek, Donkey, and Puss, only limit themselves to doing the typical trope of the stupid friends of the protagonist and are rather pointless, as they barely contribute anything to the plot.
      • The villains of the fairy tales, who instead of assuming the role of faithful allies of Prince Charming behave under the typical trope of the stupid and weak lackey or servant "They are literally defeated or they give up easily", in fact like the creatures of fairy tales are quite useless as they do not help, or support the plot.
      • The same can be said for the exclusive characters from Shrek: the Third, who far from attracting attention, are annoying or simply forced into the context of the plot.
        • In fact, there are characters who have more minutes on screen than King Harold himself, the villains, and the creatures of fairy tales (if you take into account that they are the protagonists).
  15. The overused and annoying crying baby sound is used for the first ogre baby in Shrek's nightmare after it pukes all over him.
  16. The casting choices that were made in the film are completely dubious or questionable, although the main cast returns for their respective character, the new characters or supporting characters are played by actors who had more experience in the field of film acting than in dubbing, the most questionable being that of Justin Timberlake for Arthur since he was chosen not for his experience in the dubbing medium but for his fame in the musical medium, the same can be said of the actor's Eric Idle, Seth Rogen, Maya Rudolph, Amy Sedaris, Amy Poehler, John Krasinski, Ian McShane, and Susanne Blakeslee, who were chosen simply for their fame or for gaining public attention.
    • However, as in the case of its premiere date, this decision was at some point detrimental since the performance of the new members of the voice cast was disappointing, this being more visible in Justin Timberlake, Eric Idle, Ian McShane, and, Susanne Blakeslee, whose performance is out of place or out of tune with the movie atmosphere.
    • In fact, this movie literally had a beginner dubbing direction, as some actors (especially Timberlake) have a rookie vocal performance with various vocalization and intonation errors in some words.
      • It is useless that in 2008 Justin Timberlake did an extremely deplorable job as deuteragonists in The Love Guru (a film that like Shrek the Third his face appeared in all marketing) or Ian McShane (Actor who was criticized for his performance in Shrek the Third) had an amazing vocal performance with the character Tai Lung in Kung Fu Panda.
    • The same can be said of the different dubs that were made of the film since in those dubs too many idioms or slang are used in practically many scenes in the movies, especially in the scene where Shrek, Donkey, and Puss are Arthur in high school, they all feel out of context or don't fit the scene.
  17. While the musical score is decent, the soundtrack is used incorrectly in some scenes:
    • One scene attempts to use Led Zeppelin's "Immigrant Song", but it gets the timing of the scream completely wrong and then proceeds to play a different song shortly after.
    • Some of the song choices themselves do not fit the tone in some scenes, with the biggest offender being the Damien Rice song "9 Crimes", since the scene it plays in is supposed to be sad and dour, but it becomes confusing when a song about infidelity is being played; there is also "Live and Let Die" from the 1973 James Bond film of the same name, which plays during King Harold's funeral.
  18. The subplot of Puss and Donkey's bodies being switched in the style of Freaky Friday is rather pointless and serves no reason to exist other than to give the duo something to do in this film.
  19. Another big problem with the film is that the dialogue is terrible; far from being dialogues between animated characters with human feelings, they feel more like the improvised dialogue between two indifferent characters, which is terrible if you assume if in the last two films the characters they had witty dialogues or scripts that connected with the franchise, however in this film, far from being transversal, it lacks the wit and causes embarrassment the viewer.
    • Perhaps the biggest problem is that Shrek The Third's dialogue sticks to the mistake of "Overexposure or Saturate Text" which is terrible since the characters only do most of the movie is talk and nothing, stuff that far from attracting attention the only thing that causes is boredom, stress, and disinterest, The worst of all is that all the characters have very poor dialogues.
  20. As previously mentioned, the majority of the attempts at humor are tasteless and offensive, especially Shrek's infamous "Well, someone better be dying!" line right before the scene immediately cuts to King Harold on his deathbed.
    • It also overuses gross-out humor which serves no purpose in the story, whereas in the previous two films, the gross-out humor at least had some sort of thematic purpose and was used to signify the gross aspects of ogres (e.g. in the dinner scene in Shrek 2, Fiona's burp is something she and Shrek bond over and it causes King Harold to resent Shrek even more).
  21. The background that is given to the film is disastrous since the film has a hasty execution, at the same time slow, that all it does is oversaturate the film to the extreme, causing that the premise that is presented does not cause an impact. emotional or personal with the viewer, something that was handled perfectly well in Shrek, Shrek 2, Shrek Forever After: The Final Chapter, or Puss in Boots, in Shrek the Third terribly combines humor in moments that are supposed to be serious, so when one of the characters is about to take damage, you no longer care that it is full of humor.
    • The worst attempts at humor in the film are shown in moments when the characters are in situations of risk or reflection, for example.
      • Shrek stumbles upon a Looney Toons just as Fiona nearly fell on top of burnt wood.
      • Shrek even asks a servant to scratch his butt the moment he will be crowned king.
      • Shrek laughs when he stabs a man with a sword.
      • Shrek laughs when King Harold is about to die and entrusts him with the task of being king.
      • Puss awkwardly jokes with Arthur now that he's assuming the king's throne.
      • Arthur threatens his schoolmates with killing them now that he will be king.
      • King Harold fakes his death two times
      • The entire audience laughs when Charming threatens them.
      • Arthur is hanged by nerdy students in the middle of the school.
      • The students and teachers literally encourage Shrek to eat Arthur!
      • Shrek in a buffoonish way told Arthur that his father tried to kill him and eat him.
      • The pirates start playing music while attacking Shrek, Puss, Burro, and Arthur.
      • Prince Charming kills a man when he reviews his script.
      • The creatures in the fairy tale behave like immature children when they are about to be imprisoned.
  22. The film presents different incongruities or plot gaps with the story that is presented as from the Shrek franchise itself:
    • Why did Charming end up poor and working in a canteen if his mother had a large potion business?
    • Why is Charming alone? Wasn't sure he was supposed to have too many servants of his mother's at his disposal?
    • It's never explained what happened with the empire of potions of the Fairy Godmother.
    • When did Fiona found out that she was pregnant with Shrek's children?
    • Why was Artie an outcast student if he was the nephew of a king?
    • How did the fairy tale villains arrive or find the area where Shrek was shipwrecked, and how did they return so quickly to the kingdom of Far Far Away?
    • Why didn’t the princesses escape from prison if they had different abilities to do so?
    • When did Charming convince or fall in love with Rapunzel?
    • Why are the students of Arthur's high school so calm in seeing Shrek when he is an ogre?
    • Why didn’t the population or the army of Far Far Away defend the kingdom from Charming and the villains?
    • How come the kingdom of Far Far Away ended up in misery or ruin from Charming's coup if only a day had passed?
    • Why is the population of the kingdom of Far Far Away very quiet despite having just suffered a putsch and the kingdom being sacked?
    • How did Puss and Donkey manage to free their friends and reach the castle of the kingdom so fast if you suppose that they did not know where they were caged and the distance from the castle to the kingdom is enormous?
    • How did Merlin come to the Far Far Away kingdom if he never knew the kingdom?
    • How did Arthur did not leave the kingdom so quickly if logically he should already be out of the kingdom, however when he meets Donkey and Puss he was just passing through the gardens, assuming that he had already spent a long time since discussing him with Shrek?
    • Why did the villains faithfully obey Charming if the latter mostly behaves like a tantrum child?
    • How did the villains manage to defeat or subdue the kingdom very easily if it has a gigantic numerical difference? Or because they could not be defeated since they are very few?
    • How come the Far Far Away guards didn't realize that Puss and Donkey were freeing the fairy creatures if you assume they were patrolling the entire kingdom?
    • How did Arthur manage to convince the fairy tale villains to give up their evil actions very easily when he was a bullied student unable to make his peers (subjects with less evil alignment) stop teasing him?
  23. The animation, although an improvement over the animation of the first two Shrek films, has an unpleasant color palette, with the background colors being just brown, gray and dark yellow, unlike the previous films that were more colorful.
    • Speaking of the animation of the film, there are very notorious moments (mainly in the harbor, the house of Merlin, and the kingdom of Far Far Away) where the exterior shots of the landscape like the clouds and the wind are too static.
    • At the same time, some renderings are poorly polished, textures look fake (or are game-like), and various background characters lack expressions.
  24. Poor direction by Chris Miller and Raman Hui whose takes are always static in this film.
    • It's more glaring knowing that Chris Miller directed Puss in Boots and Chris' direction in Puss in Boots is really good.
  25. Unlike Shrek, Shrek 2, and Shrek Forever After that most of the shots towards the characters were American shots, medium-long shots, and wide shots in all the scenes in which they appeared (which gave a good reflection of the environment and the exterior), practically all the shots that are made of the characters in Shrek the Third are limited only to the very close-up, close-up or medium close-up, and in a few exceptions to the general medium shot, which in addition to limiting too much. The atmosphere shown in the film shows that the direction, production, and design of the animation in Shrek the Third was extremely lazy.
  26. Poor editing that makes Far Far Away looks more like an avenue than the realm of the second movie
  27. The ending is sadly stupid since literally, Charming wants to be crowned king in a musical play where he tells his hardships in a presumptuous or annoying way, in front of a subjugated people, while Shrek is more than scared "Because they are going to kill". He takes it as if it were a joke, although we take into account that despite his song and attitude, Charming is capable of killing him, and then all Shrek's friends appear that instead of attacking what they only do is pose and nothing else., then being ambushed by the villains of Fairy Tales, and at the end, Arthur arrives "In an inexplicable way" to tell them in a very indirect way "Stop being bad, you have not had other goals in your life" something pathetic since the villains gives up just by hearing those words, and then see the death of Charming crushed by a tower, with Arthur crowning himself king while people without even knowing him praise him as a new king and then see a scene that it ends with Shrek with Fiona taking care of her children.
    • Regardless of taking into account what happened in Shrek the Third, this film has one of the most absurd and useless outcomes in the history of Dreamworks, since everything is solved in a very convenient way, the characters do not suffer any damage and everyone lives happily forever, which far from looking like a Dreamworks ending looks like a Disney sequel ending (Bearing almost resemblance to The Hunchback of Notre Dame II, Mulan II and Pocahontas II: Journey to a New World).
    • Speaking of the ending, the credits are terribly nondescript, as the only thing about us is that Donkey and Puss sing "Thank You (Falletin 'Me Be Mice Elf Again)" while Shrek's babies make a mess "to put the names of the actors in the film".[1], [2].
      • The main problem with these credits is, in the first place, the song Thank You has nothing to do with the premise of the film.
      • The second problem is that the animation is a complete shame, as Puss and Donkey literally sing on a poorly focused black background, while moving as if they are walking, instead of dancing, the movements feel very out of place, especially when you lift and move Puss's arms.
      • The third is that Shrek's babies are very annoying since they get to be unbearable with their attitude since they make a mess and seem lost with the environment.
      • The fourth is that Donkey, Puss, and the babies are very poorly focused since the only thing they focus on is their upper body (especially Donkey and Cat).
      • Additionally, the final songs Best Days, Other Ways and Pomp and Circumstance, as well as Thank You (Falletin 'Me Be Mice Elf Again) have nothing to do with the premise of the film. In fact, they are more independent or randomly chosen songs that accompany the credits.
  28. False advertising: In the different posters that came out of the film, Shrek can be seen wearing a king's suite with a king's crown. However, Shrek only wears this suit for 3 minutes, and at no time in the film is he seen with a Crown. That also implied that Shrek was actually going to become the new king when in the film after finding out that he's supposed to be the new king, he rejects this and goes looking for Arthur so that he can be it.
    • On a movie poster, you can see Merlin alongside Shrek's friends (the fairy tale creatures) in a guard pose, however, none of these characters are found together in the movie.
    • In a promotional poster you can see Shrek (with the king's crown) along with all his friends and the new characters (Artie, the Princesses, and Merlin) running through one of the streets of Far Far Away from Charming and his henchmen. However, this never happens in the movie.
    • In the most widely used movie poster for worldwide theatrical distribution, Shrek can be seen with a sword and knight armor, Arthur with Camelot's sword, Merlin with two blasts of blue power, and Prince Charming as an ally or Shrek's friend. None of this happens in the movie.
    • On the poster for the DVD editions of the film, Shrek, Donkey, and Puss can be seen swinging on a chain. This also does not happen in the film.
    • In an interview with the film's producers, they stated that King Harold was going to have an important role in the film or that he was going to have a leading role. However, King Harold only appears in two minutes maximum, and although his death is a plot trigger, it is easily forgotten due to it's shallow depth.
  29. Similar to the case of the animated films like Cars 2, Minions, or films such as Halloween III: Season of the Witch, A Nightmare on Elm Street 2: Freddy’s Revenge, X-Men: The Last Stand, X-Men Origins: Wolverine and Alvin and the Chipmunks: Chipwrecked, Shrek the Third does not have a great or no impact on the franchise as was Shrek, Shrek 2 or Puss in Boots, since most of the events that occur in the film can be omitted without any problem, the only events or contributions that can be considered important of the film for the franchise are the death of King Harold (Although not so much), the surrender of the villains (Although not so much), and the birth of Shrek's children.
    • Speaking of the case of impact on the franchise, Shrek the Third can be overlooked, and literally, nothing is lost, as most of its events are completely ignored in Shrek Forever After as in Shrek's Christmas or Halloween shorts, or suffer almost 80% of retcon, for example:
      • Rumpelstiltskin, the character that appears in this film, has no relation to the Rumpelstiltskin of the fourth film if one talks about his personality, design, behavior, attitude, and motivation.
      • Arthur is supposed to be the new king of Far Far Away, however in Shrek Forever After as in the shorts, Arthur not only does not appear or is mentioned, but he does not even seem to exist, since in the fourth film and in the shorts it's implied that Queen Lilian remains the monarch of the kingdom.
        • Speaking of Arthur, the academy or school in Worcestershire (Place where Arthur studied), it seems they never existed, not even mentioned by Fiona, Lilian, Rumpelstiltskin (From Shrek Forever After), the ogre community (From Shrek Forever After), or the townspeople of San Ricardo (From Puss in Boots).
        • In addition to the above, it is useless that Arthur originally had in mind to appear in Shrek Forever After in at least 3 scenes, but due to Justin Timberlake's musical tour in 2010, he ended up being removed from the film, however, the voice that Justin Timberlake used for Arthur (which was not good) wasn't difficult or complicated to imitate, so the decision to remove him from the film (without even making a mention of it) shows how irrelevant the character was to the writers.
          • In the same way, their original presence in Shrek Forever After would also be considered irrelevant or filler since they had an extra role.
      • It is assumed that Prince Charming was left poor after the events of the second film, he was also defeated by Shrek and crushed by a tower in the third film, however in the fourth film this is completely omitted, in fact in the shorts it is makes it clear that he's still alive, he's got money, and now he's good (being the short Shrek - M.J. Thriller HD the one that confirms all this [1]), even in the video game that came out based on the movie the character is alive.
      • It is assumed that in this film King Harold dies, however in Shrek Forever After his death is ignored, being in the credits where it is confirmed that he died, however, if the final credits are omitted the fate of the character remains ambiguous, the same can be said of the flashbacks of Shrek the Third in the end credits, with the scene of King Harold in his bed eating a fly (after faking his death), which also becomes ambiguous, this also applies in the shorts.
      • The villains from the fairy tales are supposed to have attacked the kingdom, as in the case of Arthur, they don't seem to have dealt any blow to the kingdom, in fact, the only thing that is mentioned of them in Shrek Forever After is in a dialogue from the fourth film where it is said that, with the marriage of Shrek and Fiona, they became good and lived in peace, the same can be said in the shorts.
      • Merlin is supposed to be an omnipotent being who now lives in Far Far Away, just like Arthur's case, he seems to have never existed.
        • Speaking of Merlin, unlike the case of Arthur (which if he was going to have a presence in the fourth film),Merlin was practically not going to appear in Shrek Forever After, being a sign that Merlin was the most unnecessary or irrelevant character in the film.
      • Puss and donkey, changed bodies for a day, this fact is completely ignored and never mentioned again.
      • Rapunzel supposedly had an affair with Charming and betrayed Fiona, however, in the fourth film as in the shorts she does not appear and it does not even seem that Fiona knows her or lives in Far Far Away.
      • The princesses are supposed to be unwavering friends of Fiona, in the fourth film they only appear in the credits, in the shorts they do not appear or are not even mentioned.
  30. As in the case of the films Halloween III: Season of the Witch, Halloween 5: The Revenge of Michael Myers, Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers, Halloween: Resurrection, A Nightmare on Elm Street 2: Freddy’s Revenge, A Nightmare on Elm Street 5: The Dream Child, Freddy’s Dead: The Final Nightmare, Friday the 13th: A New Beginning, Jason Goes to Hell: The Final Friday, Jason X, Ice Age: Collision Course, Planes: Fire & Rescue, Cars 2, Planes, Solo: A Star Wars Story, The Last Airbender, Fantastic Four (2015), Star Wars: The Last Jedi, Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker, Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines, Terminator Salvation, Terminator Genisys, Terminator: Dark Fate, Seed of Chucky, Pacific Rim Uprising, Transformers: The Last Knight, and The Amazing Spider-Man 2: Rise of Electro, that affected their respective franchises, Shrek The Third was the main responsible for the Shrek saga ending so abruptly, since, before the premiere of Shrek The Third, Dreamworks had planned that Shrek would be a saga with a fourth film with the name Shrek Goes Fourth that would be released in 2010, and Shrek 5 that would be released in 2013 (There was even the idea of a Shrek 6 to complete the saga), at the same time it was planned to release several Spin-off ​films based on the characters from the Shrek universe (such as Puss, Donkey, Fiona, Pinocchio, the Three Pigs, the Bad Wolf and among others), this also included the creation of a television series starring fairy tale creatures having adventures in Far Far Away and the creation of many shorts starring Shrek and his friend, however, due to poor reception from both the public, fans, and critics, the financial disappointment for not meeting the studio's expectations such as Shrek The Third low marketing sales and the hard time its voice actors had (mainly Mike Myers after the premiere of The Love Guru), all these projects were unexpectedly paused, being 2008 where it was confirmed that Shrek Goes Fourth was modified to Shrek Forever After, at the same time that Shrek 5 was canceled and the idea of Shrek 6 was completely discarded, this also happened with the Spin-Off movies (Puss in Boots only came out of the strains), the television series was canceled and the multiple shorts that were had in mind were reduced to 4 shorts.
    • Speaking of the impact of Shrek The Third, this film marked the end and the beginning of a DreamWorks era, as thanks to the premiere of Shrek The Third as Bee-Movie, DreamWorks began to cease to be seen as an innovative story-making studio that defeated Disney like Pixar, but as a studio that only imported profits such as sales and not quality, in turn after saturating Shrek in the market, it was also seen as a studio that could not abandon Shrek, thus generating more money in his cinematographic history, causing the public to no longer take his projects seriously.
    • In addition to the above, Shrek The Third, gained a negative legacy in the history of animation, as it led many animators to place Shrek The Third as an example of what should not be put in a sequel, in turn, this film sparked many studies by mistake creating animated films based on the ideas used in Shrek The Third as a sure success (saturating the cinema with mediocre children's animation films leaving quality aside), and this, in turn, caused many viewers to defend and admire DreamWorks films becoming critics or reviewers of them.

Good Qualities

  1. The animation is an improvement from the previous two films.
  2. A couple of funny scenes, such as Puss in Donkey's body doing his cute eyes thing only for the guards to find him weird, and another scene where Pinocchio tries to avoid Charming's interrogation by trying not to say "yes" or "no", as well as one scene where a guy assumes Shrek's appearance to be a costume.
  3. The baby ogres are cute.
  4. Amazing voice acting, thanks to the cast reprising their roles.
  5. The dubbing of the films despite their errors in some translations is good.
  6. The phrase of Donkey from school has been a precursor to a series of theories about the Shrek franchise.
  7. In one scene, the school band at Worcestershire Academy plays "All-Star" by Smash Mouth from the first movie, which is a nice touch.
  8. It features a raw reflection of the debilitating concerns of entering fatherhood, despite the plot of Shrek becoming a father with babies being poorly written and executed in this movie.
  9. Seth Rogen does make a decent, almost unrecognizable cameo.
  10. As mentioned above, some of the song choices are decent, but nowhere near as good as in the previous films.
  11. The fight between the Princesses and the Knights is action packed.
  12. Though weak as an antagonist, Prince Charming's motivations to take over Far, Far Away and avenge his deceased mother are very justified and reasonable.
  13. The scene when Shrek and Artie talk about their respective fathers is nice and heart-warming.
  14. It reunited John Cleese and Eric Idle, who were known for being on Monty Python.
  15. Artie's speech at the end is a very nice message.
  16. The idea of taking all the known fairy-tale bad guys into a gang to take over a kingdom is pretty original.

Reception

Critical response

Unlike the previous two Shrek films, Shrek the Third was not as well-received, as it was met with mixed reviews from critics and the audience, making it the weakest Shrek film. The film currently holds a 42% rating based on 211 reviews with the consensus reads, "Shrek the Third has pop culture potshots galore but at the expense of the heart, charm, and wit that made the first two Shreks classics". On Metacritic, the film has a weighted average score of 58 out of 100, based on 35 critics, indicating "mixed or average reviews". Audiences polled by CinemaScore gave the film an average grade of "B+" on an A+ to F scale, a step down from the first two films' "A".

Box office

Shrek the Third grossed $ 813 on a budget of $ 160 million, becoming the fourth highest-grossing film of 2007 and was the box office success, however, DreamWorks deemed it a bad investment as they expected Shrek III raised a minimum of $ 910 or $ 930 million, at the same time that its net profit was greatly reduced by the gigantic marketing campaign, as well as the payment to the actors (in fact, this is the first and only film of DreamWorks in having more than 50 voice actors), which reportedly generated a net profit of $ 450 or $ 500 million ($ 450 million less than Shrek 2, $ 200 million less than Shrek: Forever After or Shrek, and $ 150 million less than Puss in Boots).

Controversy

During the beginning of the movie, in Prince Charming's dinner theater, coconuts are revealed to be the source of the horse's hoof beats. the same joke was used in Monty Python and the Holy Grail, which also starred John Cleese and Eric Idle. Idle left the premiere accusing the film producers for the unauthorized use of this gag, while the producers claimed that they were honouring Cleese and Idle by using the scene. Also, the Conserative Illinois blog criticized the use of Doris the ugly stepsister, saying that they were using the character to "desenitize" children and parents to transgenderism.

Trivia

  1. This is the only film where Shrek doesn't roar.
  2. Despite being directed by Chris Miller, his character the Magic Mirror does not appear in the film making this the only Shrek movie to do so.
  3. The scene where Prince Charming and the Fairy Tale villains invade Far Far Away is somewhat similar to real-life invasions such as the bombing of Pearl Harbor as well as Germany invading Poland, along with the German Blitzkrieg. The film version of Pearl Harbour was released the same year as the first Shrek film.
  4. Mike Myers (Shrek) and Justin Timberlake (Artie) were both in The Love Guru, also distributed by Paramount Pictures.

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